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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #81 on: Friday 03 November 23 03:13 GMT (UK) »
Mark Kerr O'Neill, cadet of the O'Neills of Shane Castle; Lived Flowerfield

1.Robert Kerr
2.David Kerr
2.Hester Kerr m. Felix O'Neill, b. 1645, son of Arthur O'Neill and Eleanor
3.Mark Kerr O'Neill, 1774 Mark was a JP for Co. Wexford
4.Mark Kerr O'Neill, d. 1764-1818

Mark Kerr O'Neill is either buried in the Agherton Graveyard at Portstewart or
in the Ballyaghran Old Churchyard.  The two Marks may have been buried in different places??

Macmanus family

1.Bryan Macmanus of Ballybeg m. 1662 Eseme McNaghten of Beardville.
2.Alexander m. 1708 Honoria McGuiness of Cabra, Co. Down.
3.Bryan, High Sheriff of Co. Antrim, m. 1769 Alicia, dau of Adam Stodhard of Drumbam, Co. Down.
4.Lt. Col. Alexander Macmanus m. Hester Henrietta, dau of Mark Kerr O'Neill of Flowerfield.
5.Eliza Macmanus m. 1809 John Rowan of Garry and Ahoghill.
5.Helen Macmanus m. 1824 Moleyneux William Shuldham, son of Pooley Shuldham and Mary Brady.

Rowan family
1.Rev. Andrew Rowan, 1635-1717; m. 1. abt. 1660 Miss McPhedris, dau of Capt. William McPhedris;  m. 2. Alice Dunlop, dau of Brice Dunlop, who was the son of Christian Stewart and Brice Dunlop.  His sister, Alice Dunlop, had married Archibald Stewart.
2.Capt. Wiliam Rowan m. Mildred Thompson
2.Rev. John Rowan m. Margaret Stewart
3.Rev. Robert Rowan, c. 1702-1742, m. Letitia Stewart, dau of John Stewart of Garry/Carey, son of William Stewart of Carey
4.William Rowan
4.Stewart Rowan m.
5.Rose Rowan
5.Robert Rowan
4.John Rowan b. 1733 m. 1753 Rose Stewart, dau of Capt. Charles Stewart of Lisburn and his wife, Rose Hall, dau of Roger Hall of Narrow Water.
5.Letitia Rowan
5.Rose Rowan
5.Charlotte Rowan
5.Margaret Rowan
5.Charles Rowan
5.John Rowan
5.Hellena Rowan.
5.Robert m. Eliza Willson, dau of Hill Willson.
6.John m. 1. 1809 to Eliza Honoria, eldest dau of Lt. Col. Alexander Macmanus.
2.Jane Rowan
2.Catherine Rowan
Children with Alice Dunlop
2.Robert Rowan
2.Archibald Rowan
2.George Rowan, b. abt. 1675
2.Randall Rowan, b. abt. 1676
2.Neal Rowan, c. 1677-1678
2.Simon Rowan, died 1675
2.Martha Rowan m. John O'Neill
3.Rose O'Neill
3.Mary O'Neill m. John O'Neill
4.Barney O'Neill
4.Con O'Neill
4.Felix O'Neill
4.John O'Neill
4.Martha O'Neill
4.Esther O'Neill m. William Hogg
2.Esther Rowan m. Arthur O'Neill who was a magistrate.
3.Elizabeth O'Neill m. James M'Curley
3.Rowan O'Neill
3.Charity O'Neill
3.Arthur O'Neill
2.Rev. John Rowan m
3.Acheson Rowan
3.Hugh Rowan

I would be intereste in knowing whom the Hellena Rowan mentioned above was married to?

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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #82 on: Friday 03 November 23 18:36 GMT (UK) »
maybe
Tirnawannagh (from Irish: "Tír na Bhfána", meaning 'Countryside of the Slopes') is a townland in the civil parish of Templeport, County Cavan, Ireland. It lies in the Roman Catholic parish of Corlough and barony of Tullyhaw.

Jack

I think I've found it now - Tornaroan, Culfeightrin parish.

https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/cary/culfeightrin/the-fair-head/tornaroan/

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/9b31e0501b744154b4584b1dce1f859b/page/Place-Name-Info/?data_id=dataSource_1-PlaceNames_Gazeteer_No_Global_IDs_3734%3A24984

There were salt pans just a few hundred metres up the coast from here.  I wonder if John Smith was the man who originally developed them.

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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #83 on: Saturday 04 November 23 22:01 GMT (UK) »
Mark Kerr O'Neill, cadet of the O'Neills of Shane Castle; Lived Flowerfield

1.Robert Kerr
2.David Kerr
2.Hester Kerr m. Felix O'Neill, b. 1645, son of Arthur O'Neill and Eleanor
3.Mark Kerr O'Neill, 1774 Mark was a JP for Co. Wexford
4.Mark Kerr O'Neill, d. 1764-1818

Mark Kerr O'Neill is either buried in the Agherton Graveyard at Portstewart or
in the Ballyaghran Old Churchyard.  The two Marks may have been buried in different places??

Thanks.  I looked up a Betham sketch pedigree which appeared to show the Kerr who married O’Neill was the daughter of a Robert, son of Mark, son of Robert Ker who died in 1679.  But the actual Betham will abstracts don’t show this, and it seems like too many generations.  So with these Exchequer Bill abstracts I’ve come to the conclusion that Hester was daughter of the Robert who died in about 1679, which I think matches your version?

1680 - Exchequer Bill Index:
8th Jul 1680
Plaintiffs = Marke Kerr and Margt Kerr widow
Decendants = Robert Kerr and Robert Shawbridge

1685 - Exchequer Bill Index:
13th Jun 1685
Plaintiff = Archibald McNeile, Rector of Ballentoy.
Defendants = Alexander Earl of Antrim, Tho Nugent, Mark Kerr, Margt Carr, Robert Stewart.
Legal = Archibald Hutchinson, Galland, W. Scott.

1711 - Exchequer Bill Index:
14th May 1711
Plaintiff = Mary Stewart als Kerr
Defendants = Margaret Kerr, Ann Adaire als Kerr, Jane Blaire als Kerr, Ester Kerr, Robert Kerr, James Kerr, Richard Lynam & Jon Tompson.

1714 - Exchequer Bill Index:
5th Mar 1714
Plaintiff = Mary Steuart
Defendants = Margt Keir, Felix O'Neill & Hester his wife, Ann Adaire, Jane Blaire, Jno Thompson, Robt Kerr & Jas Kerr


I think the Ester and Hester in the last two are the same person, so she married Felix O’Neill between 1711 and 1714.  Mark Kerr O’Neill must have only been 10 or 11 when he signed this deed, but at least he had his tutor there to guide him:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSN1-6SB6-T?i=467&cat=185720

Does this look right?
1.   Robert Kerr (d. c1679) m. Margaret ____ (d. bet. 1714-1718).
1.1.   Mark Kerr.
1.2.   Jane Kerr m. John Blair.
1.2.1.   Robert Blair.
1.3.   Anne Kerr m. William Adair.
1.3.1.   James Adair.
1.4.   Mary Kerr m. James Stewart (d. bef. 1710).
1.4.1.   John Stewart.
1.5.   David Kerr (d. 1688)
1.6.   Nathaniel Robert Kerr
1.7.   William James Kerr
1.8.   Hester Kerr m. Felix O’Neill
1.8.1.   Mark Kerr O’Neill (c1715-c1789) m. Elizabeth Tobin
1.8.1.1.   Esther O’Neill (c1761-1842) m. Alexander Macmanus.
1.8.1.2.   Felix O’Neill.
1.8.1.3.   Mark Kerr O’Neill (c1764-1818) m. Eliza Jones.
1.8.1.4.   Major Robert O’Neill.
1.8.1.5.   Elizabeth O’Neill m. ____ Godfrey.
1.8.1.6.   Mary O’Neill m. Henry O’Hara.


Was Robert Stewart in the 1685 bill the one who was married to Elsie McAuley?  And was James Stewart who wrote his will in 1769 somehow related to the James Stewart (d. bef 1710) who married Mary Kerr?  Hmmm.


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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #84 on: Sunday 05 November 23 01:11 GMT (UK) »
Gilby, I think that this old post by Shirley Walsh will confirm much of  what you stated.  Although Shirley was primarily concerned with doing research on the Adairs, she also did a lot of research on related families.
Please see her post

https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/kerr/4683/

This website may be of use as well for those who have access to Proni:
https://www.ancestryireland.com/scotsinulster/Case%20Studies/Key%20Names.php?name=Stewart


A little more on the O'Neills

1.Arthur O'Neill of Neillsbrook and Flowerfield, m. Eleanor, dau of Henry O'Neill of Ballylisnelarnen.
2.Felix m. Hester, Esther, Kerr
3.Mark m. Elizabeth Tobin, dau of Abraham Tobin
4.Mark, 2nd son, m. 1809 Eliza Jones, dau of Thomas Morris Jones
4.Elizabeth m. ? Godfrey
4.Esther m. Alexander Macmanus
4.Felix
4.Maj. Robert, d. 1810
2.Daniel m.
3.Eleanor m. Ambrose O'Rourke of Ballybollan
3.Luke
3.John
3.Charles
3.St. John
2.Katherine m. an O'Hara
2.Rose


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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #85 on: Monday 06 November 23 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Confirmation that James Stewart of Coleraine was son of Robert Stewart...

1736 - Antrim to Robert Stewart - ROD 83/325/59100
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJW-C9XN-5?i=175&cat=185720
Memorial of deeds of lease and release dated 26th and 27th Mar 1736 between Alexander Earl of Antrim and Robert Stewart of Culramoney, Co Antrim, gent.  Antrim granted Stewart land in Culramoney, Egarry [Eagry, Billy parish], Craigballyvenog, Cavanmore, Castledeffrick, Urballreiogh, Carnfeioge, Livery, Ballydivity, all in Bo Dunluce, together with buildings etc thereon.  Yearly rent £59 12s plus 6% fees.  Antrim witnessed by Samuel Waring and Gabriel Heatly of Dublin.  Stewart witnessed by Alexander Stewart of Ballylough and William Harrison of same, clerk to Alexander Stewart.  Memorial witnessed by Samuel Waring and Gabriel Heatly.

1762 - James Stewart (son of Robert) to James Moore - ROD 217/448/145558
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSH3-39PZ-W?i=589&cat=185720
Memorial of deeds of lease and release dated 23rd and 24th Aug 1762 between James Stewart of Colerain [Coleraine] Co Londonderry Esq, and James Moore of Ballydivity, gent.  Whereas by lease and release dated 26th and 27th Mar 1736 between Alexander Earl of Antrim and Robert Stewart then of Cullramoney in Co Antrim gent (since deceased), Antrim conveyed to Stewart lands in Cullramoney, Egearry, Craigballyvenog, Cavanmore, Castledeffrick, Urballreiogh, Carnfeioge, Livery, Ballydivity, all in Bo Dunluce, dubject to rent of £59 12s plus 6% fees.  This indenture further witnesseth that said James Stewart (only son and heir at law of the said Robert Stewart deceased) sold to James Moore for £1200 the lands of Carnfeioge and Ballydivity, subject to rent of £10 plus 6% fees.  Witnessed by William Linn of Ballydivity, gent, Alexander McKachan of Coleraine, merchant.  Memorial witnessed by said William Linn and by John Walker of Ballydivity.

^ I've not checked the spelling of the townland names by the way.

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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #86 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 08:40 GMT (UK) »
Very nice find, Gilby.  I was hoping that I could find some information today on Robert Stewart of Cultamoney, but I was unsuccessful.  However, your research definitely unlocked another door.

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« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 22:26 GMT (UK) »
Do you have other sources linking (Captain?) Robert Stewart to Culramoney?  I hadn’t come across the name before I found those deeds. 

Here's another useful deed.  I wonder what James Stewart or his son did to be considered needy by 1794/1796 when Dobbs did his report.

1790 - Robert Stewart (decd) and bro James Stewart - McCay & Boyd - ROD 415/361/274172
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-99JV-R?cat=185720
Memorial of release or conveyance dated 16th Jan 1790 between James Stewart of Culramoney, Co Antrim, only son and heir at law of James Stewart of Coleraine Esq, deceased and only brother and heir at law of Robert Stewart Esq., lately deceased, who was the eldest son of the said James Stewart, 1st part; Daniel McCay of Mosside and John Boyd and Adam Boyd sons and administrators with the will of Francis Boyd late of Chatham Fiall [?} also in Co Antrim, gents, 2nd.  Reciting articles of agreement dated 20th Oct 1785 between Robert Stewart and James Stewart 1st, and Daniel McCay and Francis Boyd 2nd, and of the sums of £3167 14s 6p [Stewarts sold land or agreed to sell various lands, possibly as part of a trust, or agreement to provide an annuity, and now Robert Stewart has died unmarried, the sale is to be completed...?] Witnessed by James Hamilton and James Parks of Bush Bank, Co Antrim, gent.  Sworn 6th Feb 1790.

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« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 07 November 23 22:30 GMT (UK) »
By the way, your Thomas Dawson and Dorothea Stewart were evidently still alive in 1801, and probably 1829.  I’m pretty sure this is them because of the above conveyance to Daniel McCay and Francis Boyd.  Perhaps the Dawsons felt they had been cut out of their Stewart inheritance.

1801 - Chancery Bill Index:
Bill entered 24 Apr 1801
Plaintiffs = Thomas Dawson & Dorothea his wife.
Defendants = Daniel McCay, Francis Boyd [stroked out], Peter ...? [stroked out], Hugh Anderson.

1829 - Chancery Bill Index:
Bill ... 1829
Plaintiffs = Thomas Dawson, gent & Dorothea his wife.
Defendants = Kenrick Morris & Jones Hamilton.

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Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #89 on: Wednesday 08 November 23 00:01 GMT (UK) »
The information that you gave about them being in Culramoney was all new.
I had to check where that area was, and I believe it to be in Stranocum, civil parish of Ballymoney, Dunluce Upper.  However, I would imagine that this has changed over the years.
As far as the Dobbs report is concerned, I don't believe that all the families mentioned were needy: Cuppage, Rowan, Hogg, Macaulay of Cushendall, were all relatively well -off members of society.  However, one never really has enough money, so I think that they were taking a precaution just in case their lives ever took a turn for the worse.