Author Topic: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families  (Read 15607 times)

Offline Gilby

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 835
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #54 on: Tuesday 26 September 23 21:20 BST (UK) »
RE my last post on Sunday, time to throw in the “Lairds of Ascog” pedigree from the Stewart Clan Magazine (1928), since they overlap:

John Stewart (____, Ninian, James, John, King Robert II) married Marion Fairlee. In 1584 he bought William Glass's portion of Nether Ascog, and in 1595 completed his title to the part formerly held by Donald Mclachlan and got a charter from King James VI.  He was of Kilchattan in 1568; of Largivrechtan in 1584. Son:
1.   John

John Stewart married in 1605 Giles Kelso, and succeeded his father in 1613. He held Bogany in 1609. In 1630 he gave a charter in favor of his son Ninian. Sons:
1.   John
2.   Ninian

John Stewart married ____ Cunningham. He was an advocate in 1673.  Issue:
1.   John; married Elizabeth Robertson and had son John, who married Margaret Murray and changed his name to Murray of Blackbarony.
2.   Col. Robert.
3.   Isabel; married (1) John McArthur and had son John, whose son was Archibald McArthur Stewart; (2) Alexander Campbell, and her grandson was Thomas Campbell, the poet. Her grandson Frederick added Stewart to his name.
4.   (others).


NB: This is probably based on information in "The Isle of Bute in the Olden Times" (1895).  Two pages after this it mentions that this book had conflated Ninian Stewart with his father, also Ninian Stewart.  So it is not clear if this John was the grandson of Ninian senior or Ninian junior, or perhaps son of Ninian junior, and grandson of Ninian senior.

Offline Gilby

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 835
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #55 on: Tuesday 26 September 23 21:57 BST (UK) »
The next step on the Ascog line is to transcribe the will of John Stewart of Ascog (1642), but that is going to take a lot more energy (and time) than I have tonight, so in the meantime here is another Stewart pedigree from PRONI.

D2225/7/42

For Jackson Wray Esq.  April 9th 1790.

Pedigree of Stewart of Ballintoy.

Ringen, or Ninian Stewart of Ballintoy was son of ____ Stewart of Killchattan in the Isle of Bute, and came over to Ireland in the year 1600 or 1603 and died about the year 1635.  I find in the Down Survey made in the Reign of James the first the following observation (viz) “at Ballintoy there is a fair English like house in repair belonging to Mr Stewart who is a protestant”.  To whom married is not known.

Archibald Stewart, son of Ringen Stewart.  It is not known when he died.  Married to a Miss Ward of the family of Castle Ward in the County of Down.

Charles Stewart son of Archibald Stewart died in the year 1703.  Sometime prior to his death he sold Kilchattan to a near relation, a Stewart of Ascock and Black Baron.  The only surviving male branch of Ascock is the infant Alexr Thos Stewart.  [Charles] married to Miss Pointz daughter to Sr Toby Pointz Bart. of Acton in the County of Armagh by which marriage the estate of Acton came to the family of Stewart.

Doctor Archibald Stewart son of Charles Stewart died without issue in the year 1758.  Married to a Miss Vesey.

Alexander Stewart second son of Charles Stewart died in the year 1741.  Married to Ann Stewart his kinswoman.  She was daughter of Doctor John Stewart of the Island of Jamaica.

Alexander Stewart son of Alexander Stewart of Acton and Ballintoy became sole heir to Doctor John Stewart of Jamacia, and in the year 1760 was invited over to the Isle of Bute, by Stewart of Ascock who actualy intended to adopt him as his heir, but by reason of some imprudent conduct, Ascock changed his mind.  [Alexander] died in the year 1786.  Married to Catherine Hill sister to Sr Hugh Hill Bart.

Alexander Thomas Stewart son of the last mentioned Alexander Stewart, was born on the 6th day of May 1763.  He is the only remaining male of the Stewarts of Ballintoy, of Stewart of Ascock, Black Baron and Killchattan – and of Doctor John Stewart of Jamaica – all of whom were related to the family of Bute but in what degree not known.  Not yet married.


Now that I’ve done some work on the Ascog Stewarts, the references to Kilchattan and Ascog make a lot more sense than they did last time I looked at this.

Offline pablo1

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 589
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 17 October 23 08:47 BST (UK) »
1.Ninian m. Jane MacCullagh
The following is not yet proven.
2.William, along with other sibs.  William b. abt. 1652; m. 1672 Jane Stewart
3.Ashley
3.John
3.James, c. 1670-1707--not mentioned in the Hutchinson Bequest; m. ?
4.Samuel
4.James, Jr., 1706-1788, m.  family emigrated to the USA
5.Isabel m. Mr. Litle
5.James III, 1761-1843, m. Lydia Morehead
6.William, 1791-1869, merchant and postmaster; m. 1815 Elizabeth Dechard
7.Gen. Alexander Peter Stewart, Confederate general, 1821-1908, m. Harriett Chase
8.Robert Caruthers Stewart, 1846-1922
8.Alphonso Chase Stewart, 1849-1916
8.Alexander Peter Stewart, Jr., 1859-1937
8.Gustavus Smith Stewart, b. 1861.
6.Margaret m. Mr. Ryninger
6.Robert Morton Stewart

Offline Gilby

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 835
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 17 October 23 22:08 BST (UK) »
There is a Thrift abstract of the will of Captain William Stewart (1727) who I believe to be the son of Ninian and Jane because he mentions his brother-in-law Neil Buie McNeill.  Also most of the details match the Dobbs Report.  I don't have the link, but here's a transcript from my notes:

Connor Will 1727
Captain William Stewart of Garey, barony of Dunluce, Co Antrim
To be buried with ancestors in the church of Ballymoney
Marriage articles dated 2nd June 1681 with Rev. Andrew Rowan, father of my beloved wife Jane Stewart
Townland of Drumart and quarterland of Negarry
Eldest son William
Children John, Andrew, Ashly and Mary
Arrears of pay for my service to the crown of England
Executors: Wife Jane and her brother John Rowan, brother-in-law Neile Buy McNeile
Dated 2nd Sep 1727
Witnesses: Ric Grifith, Dun. Campbell, Hect. McNeal, Con O'Sheil, Jane Donnell
Proved 2 Nov 1727 at Lisburn by Hugh Dixon gent


Offline pablo1

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 589
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #58 on: Wednesday 18 October 23 01:19 BST (UK) »
I am sure that William was a son, but I am not sure whether James was one of William's.  Therein lies my concern as to whether this pedigree is accurate or not.

Offline pablo1

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 589
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #59 on: Wednesday 18 October 23 08:38 BST (UK) »
recap:
1.Alice Macaulay m. Capt. Robert Stewart
2.James Stewart m.
3.Dorothea Stewart m. Thomas Dawson
4.Helen Dawson

My question is who was this Thomas Dawson that Dorothea was married to?

Two main Dawson lines and both are connected either through the Cuppage or Ballintoy Stewart families.

Dawson of Cremorne and Daltrey
1.John Dawson m. Annie Richardson
2.Walter Dawson m. 1672 Frances Dawson, dau of Richard Dawson
**3.Richard Dawson, d. 1766; m. abt. 1724 Elizabeth Vesey, dau of the Rt. Rev. John Vesey and Anne Muschamp.
4.Thomas Dawson, Viscount Cremorne; 1725-1813; m. Philadelphia Hannah Freame, granddau of William Penn.
4.Richard Dawson, d. 1782; m. Anne O'Brien, dau of Sir Edward O'Brien.
5.Richard Dawson, 1762-1807, m. 1784 Catherine Graham, dau of Lt. Col. Arthur Graham and Penelope Ligioner
6.Richard Thomas Dawson, 1788-1823, m. Anne Elizabeth Whaley, dau of John Whaley and Lady Ann Meade.
7.Richard Dawson, 1st Earl of Dartrey, b. 1817; m. Augusta Stanley, dau of Edward Stanley and the Lady Mary Maitland.

The above family has a Vesey connection as the Rev. Dr. Archibald Stewart was married to a sister of Elizabeth.  Furthermore, the Cuppage family were well-connected with William Penn through the family of Strettel.

The other Dawson family

1.Christopher Dawson
2.Thomas Dawson m.
3.Thomas Dawson, c. 1630-1683, m.
4.John Dawson m.1707 Griselda Carr, dau of Thomas Carr
4.Anne Dawson m. 1718 Nathaniel Preston
4.Thomas Dawson, MP for Wicklow;  m. Olivia Upton
4.Richard Dawson, no issue.
4.Joshua Dawson, Lord Justice, c. 1655-1725; m. Ann Carr, dau of Thomas Carr.
5.Mary Dawson, d. 1770; m. Hon. Henry Hamilton, son of Lt. Gen. Gustavus Hamilton, 1st Viscount Boyne.
5.William Dawson, d. 1779, Surveyor General; m. abt. 1739 Sarah Mary Newcomen/Newcombe, dau of Ponsonby, ?Thomas? Newcomen/Newcombe
5.Charles Dawson m. abt. 1755 Sarah Downing, dau of John Downing
5.Anne Elizabeth Dawson, m. 1734 the Rev. Robert Berkeley.
5.Eleanor Dawson, 1697, died in infancy.
5.Rev. Joseph Dawson, 1701-1777.
5.Arabella Dawson, 1713-1765.
5.Arthur Dawson, 1698-1775, MP, Baron of the Exchequer; m. abt. 1729 Jane O'Neil, dau of John O'Neil of Shane's Castle.
**6.John Dawson m. abt. 1755 Miss Cuppaidge, dau of George Cuppaidge
This Dawson family also has a Cuppage connection.

Ancestry had this concerning the family just above:
4.Joshua, m. Ann Carr
5.Thomas, c. 1697-c.1732, m. Ann Cunningham
6.Thomas, b. abt. 1722 m. Sarah Stewart
7.Sarah Stewart, b. abt. 1755 m. Ninion Stewart, b. abt. 1740
8.Ann Jones Stewart, c. 1766-; m. Richard Hawthorn
9.Thomas Hawthorn
9.William Hawthorn

Offline Gilby

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 835
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #60 on: Wednesday 18 October 23 21:14 BST (UK) »
I wonder who the Ninion Stewart born 1740 was.  I haven't come across any Ninians as late as that.

I have some of those Dawsons, but they're mostly not joined up on my tree just yet.  The only thing I can add is that Charles Stewart of Ballintoy and Joshua Dawson had a mutual friend in "French" John O'Neill:

From O'Laverty's Down and Connor (1884):
[vol III, p306, from "French" John O'Neill's memorandum]
" Sir Neal O'Neill was wounded at the battle of the Boyne, in 1690. near Slane, was carried to Dublin, and from thence to Waterford, where he died of his wounds, by the negligence of his surgeons.
" Alexander M'Donnel, Earl of Antrim, brother to the Marquis, died at Thistleworth, near London, in the year 1699, and was buried at Holywell, in Wales.
" My old comrade, Major Charles Stewart, of Ballintoy, died in London, about the midst of November, 1710, and was buried in St. James's Church.
"Captain Edmund Stafford (3) died in Portglenone, in August, 1713, and was buried in the Church of Ahoghill, by whose death I lost a kind, dear friend.
" Clotworthy Skeffington, Lord Viscount Massereene (the first of that Christian name), died in the Castle of Antrim, the 13th of March, 1713-14, and was buried in the Church of Antrim.
"Captain William Shaw, my old comrade, died at Bush, on the 3rd of November, 1719, and was buried at Templepatrick.
" Randle M'Donnel, Earl of Antrim (son of Earl Alexander), died in Dublin, in October, 1721, and was buried in Christ's Church there.
"Joshua Dawson, Esq., died the 12th of March, 1725, at Castledawson, and was buried in his own chapel there, by which I lost a very kind, dear friend.
" Colonel Clotworthy Upton, died at Castle Upton, the 8th of ___ 1725, and was buried in Templepatrick, by which I lost a good friend.
" My old friend, Mr. James M'Cullough, died at Grogan, the 19th of July, 1725, and was buried in Old Drumall.
" My old schoolfellow and comrade, Henry M'Culloch, Esq., died the 16th January, 1728-9, and was buried in Old Drumall.
"Charles Campbell, Esq., died at New Grange, the 29th of October, 1725, by which I lost a very good friend.


I haven't worked out if Charles Stewart was buried at St. James Dublin or St. James London.  I think possibly the latter - it is also where Archibald Hutchinson was buried.  I tried contacting the church a few weeks ago, but haven't heard anything back.

Offline Gilby

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 835
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #61 on: Wednesday 18 October 23 22:35 BST (UK) »
I am sure that William was a son, but I am not sure whether James was one of William's.  Therein lies my concern as to whether this pedigree is accurate or not.

What do you know about James Stewart (c1670-1707)?  Did he leave a will which survives? 

I do have a James Stewart of Fort Cunningham / Ballyaghan who died in about 1707, but he was son of William of same place.

And the (Rev?) James Stewart (of Coleraine?), father (?) of John Stewart of Jamaica may have died in about 1708.

Offline pablo1

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 589
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Stewarts of Ballintoy and some related families
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday 18 October 23 23:13 BST (UK) »
As of yet, I know nothing about this James Stewart whose family emigrated to the U.S.  I will do some work on it to see what I can find.