return to UK from Canada

[geenz]

I have a family member who married in July 1910 but a month later in August 1910 left UK for Quebec, Canada.  I can not find a record of his return from Canada to the UK sometime in 1911 or 1912 but he had a son in June 1913 in the UK.  He is noted as father so has to be back in the UK at the latest by September 1912.  His wife stayed in the UK during this period and she had a illegitimate child (born January 1912) while Husband was in Canada, and on the 1911 England and Wales Census she is noted as a single servant, not acknowledging she is married but has been married for a while at that time. 
I am aware Canada does not have good records of those outgoing from Canada at this time.  I was hoping UK would have a record of him as an incoming passenger.
Any suggestions?

[rosie17]

The son that was born 1913 did the father sign birth certificate ?.If he did return to the UK he should show on the incoming passenger lists .You could try looking for him using a variation of surnames or you could post his name and see if others can find him

Rosie

[geenz]

The person I am referring to is Norman Nicholas Falla.  He was born in Durham on 13 August 1888.

Norman was the informant on his son Maurice's birth certificate.

It also occurred to me that he landed in Canada but at some point later crossed the border into the USA and went home from USA to London. 

However I sill cant find Norman on incoming passenger lists to the UK in that period and I would have hoped he would show.  Only other thing is a misspelling of his name perhaps?

Norman shows on other incoming passenger lists in later years because he did a return trip home in the 1950s from Australia.

Also, he is named as the informant on the first illegitimate child's birth certificate (Cyril) and his first wife died in 1919.  Norman remarried to wife 2 before emigrating to Australia, taking 1 son (Maurice) but not taking the older illegitimate son (Cyril) with him.

Complicated!  I know.

I hope this gives a bit more clarity.

[Lisa in California]

Do you know Norman’s occupation before he sailed to Canada, please?

[geenz]

The best I can do is:-

1910 marriage cert Norman's occupation is Photographic Manufacturer.
I do not have any occupation from the 1910 voyage to Canada on ship "Lake Champlain"
No record of Norman on 1911 England and Wales Census.
1912 birth cert Norman is a Photographic Material Manufacturer
1913 birth cert Norman is a Photographer

so I imagine any occupation to do with photography in 1910

[Lisa in California]

The best I can do is:-

1910 marriage cert Norman's occupation is Photographic Manufacturer.
I do not have any occupation from the 1910 voyage to Canada on ship "Lake Champlain"
No record of Norman on 1911 England and Wales Census.
1912 birth cert Norman is a Photographic Material Manufacturer
1913 birth cert Norman is a Photographer

so I imagine any occupation to do with photography in 1910

Canada, Incoming passenger list
Norman Falla, age 22, Single.  Born England. Religious denomination: C of England.
Amount of cash in $:   25.00
Destination: Creelman(?), Sask [Saskatchewan].
Occupation from whence you came: Photo Manft.  Intended occupation: Farmer.

[geenz]

Thank you for that information.
That would appear to be Norman going (outbound) from London, UK to Saskatchewan, Canada (incoming to Canada). 
To be clear I am searching for is Norman going (outbound) from Canada to London(?), UK (incoming to UK) sometime over the period 1910/1911/1912.

[Lisa in California]

Thank you for that information.
That would appear to be Norman going (outbound) from London, UK to Saskatchewan, Canada (incoming to Canada). 
To be clear I am searching for is Norman going (outbound) from Canada to London(?), UK (incoming to UK) sometime over the period 1910/1911/1912.

I know.     I was hoping to find his destination and occupation to see if we could find him in Canada or America after his 1910 arrival.  If we could find him in Canada in 1911, it would narrow down the timeframe for his return to England.

I didn’t see anything for him on this website:
http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/index.html

I’ve not yet found a return to England.

[geenz]

Creelman is a location in Saskatchewan, Canada (being in the south east of Canada, not right on the west coast or east coast of Canada).  Pretty near the USA Border.
(See attachment)
So may be he crossed over the border into USA, eventually made it to the East Coast of USA where he departed from there back to England?