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Re: Heaton Cemetery in Bolton
« Reply #36 on: Friday 29 November 24 18:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Aprile,

I don't know whether you have this information. I have been trying to track down your James Thomas.  I have found Maria Thomas in the 1881 and 1891 census.  In them she states that she is the Head of the family and married, which is unusual there is no sign of James.  In 1881 her children are Herbert Pilling, Elizabeth Pilling, Thomas, Joseph Harold and Granville Shepherd.  In 1891 she is with Herbert, Elizabeth, Thomas and Granville.  In the 1901 census she the Head of the family and a widow.  She has Thomas living with her.  So if the information is correct it would appear that her husband James died between 1891 and 1901.  I did wonder whether he had left her or perhaps was working away. 

I tried to find information on James Thomas who died in Bolton in 1911.  I could not find a marriage entry for James and Rachel, although I found a birth entry for a Samuel Thomas with the mother's name as Jones.  What was interesting is that Samuel was the name of your James' father.  I found a James Thomas in the  1871 census living in Haslingden with his wife Mary Jane.  He was a cotton mill mechanic and his children were Ellen, Elizabeth and Richard.  In 1881 there is no sign of his wife. He is the Head, married and down as a cotton mill manager.  His children are Ellen, Richard and Fred Whittaker.  I did wonder whether this James with the one living in Bolton.  I found a marriage for Fred Whitaker Thomas to Mary Rothwell in Bury. Also an entry in the 1891 census for them in Bury.  Fred was born in Rawtenstall and Mary in Ainsworth.  Fred is a stationery mill engine driver.  Richard Thomas is also married and in the 1891 Census with his wife Eliza living in Lorne St, Farnworth, Bolton.  He is a steam engineer (tenter) cotton mill.  It is possible that this James Thomas moved and worked in the Bolton Bury area as his wife Rachel was born in Bury.

If you don't mind me asking, where any of the children mentioned, your ancestors?  It seems to throw up more questions.

Susan


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Re: Heaton Cemetery in Bolton
« Reply #37 on: Friday 29 November 24 19:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Susan,
Yes, James Thomas was married to Mary Jane Spencer. She passed away in 1875 and he married my great great grandmother, Maria Shepherd Pilling Thomas.  They had my great Grandfather, Granville Thomas. It is my understanding they were both widows when they married and the census has them at different addresses. I found Maria’s burial plot but am stuck on James.  I have his birth records but can’t narrow down his burial.  He was a mill mechanic at Laund Mill at one point. I was hoping Heston Cemetery might have his birth date. 

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Re: Heaton Cemetery in Bolton
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 30 November 24 16:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Aprile,

 I have been having a look at newspapers in the hope of finding reference to James Thomas.  I came across a report of a funeral in The Ramsbottom Observer Friday September 13th 1901.  The funeral was of Mr Thomas Thomas of St Annes-on-Sea formerly of Lound House, Rawtenstall.  He had a long connection with the Longholme Wesleyan Chapel and Sunday School.  He was interred on Wednesday 11th September 1901 in the Longholme Chapel Yard in the grave of his young son Thomas.  Members of the funeral party were named, one of them being Mr James Thomas of Bolton his brother.  It looks as though this may be James buried in Heaton Cemetery.

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Re: Heaton Cemetery in Bolton
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 30 November 24 17:28 GMT (UK) »
That’s him.  Thomas Thomas was his brother.  He owned Laund Mill and James worked for him. They were born in Longholme.  This is so exciting.  Thank you


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« Reply #40 on: Saturday 30 November 24 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Are you able to share the article? Is there one for James?

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Re: Heaton Cemetery in Bolton
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 01 December 24 17:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Aprile,

So far I have not been able to find anything in the newspapers on James Thomas. I am trying to fathom out how to let you see the funeral details of Thomas Thomas.  I did find the marriage of Thomas in the The Preston Chronicle and Lancashire Advertiser 29th January 1859.  "On the 19th at the Wesleyan Chapel Rawtenstall, Mr Thomas Thomas of Longholme, to Miss Hannah Whittaker of Full Barn."  I also found the funeral notice of his wife in The Blackpool Herald and Fylde Advertiser Friday April 12th 1907.  "...Interment of another St Anne's lady also took place at the Longholme Wesleyan Chapel Rawtenstall on Thursday last, the deceased being Mrs Alice Hannah Thomas of Albert Villa, St Anne's, relict of the late Mr Thomas Thomas formerly of Laund House, Rawtenstall.  She had been ailing for sometime, and leaves two daughters Mrs G E Poskitt and Miss Thomas, to mourn her loss."

I had a look at the address for 25 Avenue St in 1901, James was not living there.  It becomes more of a mystery.

Susan