George Baker (c.1846-1944) m. Mary Iles (1858-1893) from Ararat, Victoria

[baytree1970]

I'm trying to identify the parents of George Baker, born c.1846, died 2 May 1944 in Ararat, Victoria, Australia, age 98. He married Mary Iles in 1874 in Victoria, Aus. George and Mary are buried together at Elmhurst & District General Cemetery, Victoria, Aus.

Lot's of people have this couple in their tree, and almost universally George is said to be the son of Job Baker and his wife, Eliza Halliday.

Job and Eliza lived in Adelaide and their family is quite well-documented. They did have a son George, born in 1846, but there is a corresponding death record for George the next year - he died as an infant. I cannot find any documentary evidence to suggest that Job and Eliza were the parents of George Baker who married Mary Iles.

I don't know much about Australian genealogy. Is there likely to be a marriage cert or death cert for George which provides names of his parents? Or any other document? All I can see on Ancestry are references to The Australia marriage and death index, but the original documents are unavailable.

Any help tracing George's parents would be much appreciated.

 

[giblet]

Hi, the marriage certificate if filled out correctly should state his parents names.

The certificate can be order online for $22 and can be downloaded.

https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/64db1b9fa6a898256333080a

[giblet]

On the off chance your not aware Trove newspapers are also a great source to search.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/advanced/category/newspapers

[baytree1970]

Thanks, Aussie records all totally new to me so appreciate the tips

[giblet]

George's death index


BAKER George
Parents - unknown
Place of birth ADELAIDE NORTH SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Place of death ARARAT
aged 98
1944
17661/1944

[baytree1970]

thanks for this

[baytree1970]

are these indexes transcribed from original docs? there isn't any 'user contributed' component is there?

[judb]

The historical BMD records that you will receive from Victoria are digitised from the original registers so you can see the signatures etc.  They are some of the most useful documents for family history.  Marriage certificates are particularly helpful as the information is given by the participants (assuming they tell the truth, and assuming they know the information).

Well worth buying. 

Judith

[judb]

South Australia Geneology shows two births for children named George with Father Job BAKER.

https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-database-search
BAKER   George   M   Job BAKER   Adelaide   1/192   1846   
BAKER   George   M   Job BAKER   Adelaide   1/30   1843

Also, as you say, there's the death  of a George BAKER shown on this index in 1846, but the index doesn't show any details.  I am not familiar with South Australian records - the data base says you can join but I don't know if how helpful it is.

It wasn't uncommon for a newborn to be named after a recently deceased sibling so possibly the death relates to the child born 1843 (or have nothing to do with him!)  One of the Ancestry trees shows the two Georges with the death of the older one listed.

Judith