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NZ emigration records
« on: Wednesday 02 August 23 21:27 BST (UK) »
Hi all

I have just been following up the family of my greatx3 grandmother Mary Ann (Clifton) Miller in terms of her siblings and their offspring.

I've known for many years that Mary Ann and her husband James and a number of her children (though not my gx2 grandmother) emigrated to NZ in the 1870's at some point, and tracked down a fascinating family story where two of my great uncles, in the Merchant Navy, visited 'their mother's aunt' in New Zealand in the 1930's.  I was helped by some NZ Ancestry contacts to track down some of the details.

However, in my extended family researches I've been astonished to find that several of Mary Ann Clifton's siblings' families also made their way to NZ - or at least Ancestry 'hints' (yes I know), and other people's trees suggest they did.

I don't suppose there are any passenger lists which will help me find when they all left the UK, are there?  Or should I just look for first appearance on electoral rolls to try and pin it down?

Thank you for any suggestions

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Re: NZ emigration records
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 August 23 21:37 BST (UK) »
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1609792

These used to be much easier to search than they are now, but I for one have not figured out how to limit the dates or even how to sort the results into date order.

There are passenger lists on Ancestry too.

Check also for newspaper mentions

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

When they died, if they left a will,  might be here

https://collections.archives.govt.nz/en-GB/web/arena#/



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Re: NZ emigration records
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 August 23 21:42 BST (UK) »
Aha, thanks mckha489, that's great.  I'm working with both FindMyPast and Ancestry but hadn't got to FamilySearch yet.

I've found records so far, but as the names aren't particularly distinctive (and I really don't know NZ geography), I'm finding it difficult to confirm if they are the correct one.

However, one of the names is Kipps Baldwin, so I think I'll pin him down first, see where he gets to and look it up on a map, and then try and patch in his siblings round him!
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: NZ emigration records
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 August 23 21:52 BST (UK) »
Kipps Baldwin. Showing in Patea newspapers 1883-1889  This is in Southern Taranaki. 
His father is mentioned.

Kipps was a bit accident prone!
Died 1932 age 66

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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 August 23 21:54 BST (UK) »
Kipps was a butcher for some years and then suddenly started appearing as a labourer, and I must admit I'd just been thinking whether some accident had happened....
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Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
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Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: NZ emigration records
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 August 23 21:58 BST (UK) »
Was Reuben Baldwin also a name?

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 August 23 22:05 BST (UK) »
Reuben was Kipps' father. 

Other siblings were Rosa who married I believe Thomas Carman, Ellen who married I believe James Johnston, Ada who married William Frederick Frampton, and Kate who married William Buckland.

I was wanting to check the marriages, as they come from other Ancestry trees, and I would like to have other confirmation - irritatingly the sources are simply to New Zealand as a location, with no other geographical detail. 

Still to follow through on electoral rolls for them to see if they're in the same region.


Just got the free subscription to the newspapers and enjoying Kipps' adventures!  He seems to have been a bit of a one.  ;D
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: NZ emigration records
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 August 23 22:18 BST (UK) »
Quote from: mckha489 on Wednesday 02 August 23 21:58 BST (UK)
Was Reuben Baldwin also a name?

Hmm.  He seems to have been a hard taskmaster/"wardsman" at the Jubilee Home.... and his daughter (not sure which one) a matron.
Pay, Kent. 
Barham, Kent. 
Cork(e), Kent. 
Cooley, Kent.
Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich.
Cotterill, Derbys.
Van Steenhoven/Steenhoven/Hoven, Nord Brabant/Belgium/East London.
Kesneer Belgium/East London
Burton, East London.
Barlow, East London
Wayling, East London
Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
Thorpe, Brightlingsea, Essex

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Re: NZ emigration records
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 02 August 23 22:23 BST (UK) »
Ellen was the matron.  She married later to an inspector of health.
I’ll leave you to the papers , proving very fruitful.

But I do want to know if there really was a connection to Stanley Baldwin, or did they just like to say there was?


Presume you know about NZ BDM site?

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dDeathSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults


Also the WW1 file for Reuben junior should be on Ancestry or if not, Archives link I gave you earlier
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