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Kinsy
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Re: Doyle baptism 1888 - South Africa
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Reply #9 on:
Tuesday 01 August 23 19:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Girl Guide.
I've searched the baptism records on the Irish Genealogy website, which is very good - but cannot find a Joseph Bernard Doyle born in anything even close to the correct time frame, i.e. mid to late 1850s, according to his marriage & death records.
Karen McDonald
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Re: Doyle baptism 1888 - South Africa
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Tuesday 01 August 23 21:15 BST (UK) »
Hi,
A bt of a shot in the dark, but what about a badly written
Vince
? My first idea was actually a badly written
Oliver,
but the "l" would be completely different to all the other examples.
And
Vince
starts with a relatively unusual letter, which might explain not being able to find a similar letter on the rest of the page.
Just an idea...
McDonald MacDonald M'Donald McGregor MacGregor M'Gregor Twilley Wells Fentiman Carrington Rowe Needham Mitchell Mackie Collingwood Fuller Maides Shilton Hagon Budd
Kinsy
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Re: Doyle baptism 1888 - South Africa
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Tuesday 01 August 23 21:41 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Karen - every shot in the dark is appreciated. I'll have a search for a Vince Doyle, and see if anything turns up.
Sinann
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Re: Doyle baptism 1888 - South Africa
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Reply #12 on:
Tuesday 01 August 23 22:59 BST (UK) »
Another long shot, not for the name of the witness but is there by any chance a relative of the family called John Doyle also a policeman in Transvaal who married in Ireland in 1912, his father was Michael a grocer and farmer but don’t know where the father lived.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09906/5600263.pdf
They had a son Patrick Joseph which has the correct spelling of Transvaal
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01460/1596403.pdf
A newspaper says the child was born at the mother’s parents home.
Also there is a good chance the name Bernard won’t be on the baptism.
Kinsy
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Re: Doyle baptism 1888 - South Africa
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Reply #13 on:
Tuesday 01 August 23 23:39 BST (UK) »
Hmm, that's interesting, Sinann - thanks.
I don't know whether there was a John in the family, however - apart from my grandfather, that is, although he was actually baptised Johan. But he married in S.Africa, and never went to Ireland.
shanreagh
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Re: Doyle baptism 1888 - South Africa
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Wednesday 02 August 23 03:51 BST (UK) »
Is it Denis Doyle?
Kinsy
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Re: Doyle baptism 1888 - South Africa
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Wednesday 02 August 23 12:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks, shanreagh. I also though the first letter might be a D - but, after looking at the writing on a lot of the other pages, I think the last two letters are "er".
Anyway, I'll keep Denis in mind when searching for Doyles in SA.
Karen McDonald
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Re: Doyle baptism 1888 - South Africa
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Wednesday 02 August 23 13:01 BST (UK) »
It certainly does look like "er" on the end. Too much of a tail to just be an "e".
I can't help but think that he was about to write a "D" (maybe for Doyle) at the beginning and had to correct it. But what could the letter be?
I noticed that lower down there is a
Van Staden
(at least I think that's what it says) and the "V" is very clear and very simple. Maybe that ruins my "Vince" theory.
Start writing a "D", realise it's wrong, and change it to...
Something that
could
be a "W"? But
Wimer
as a first name..?
McDonald MacDonald M'Donald McGregor MacGregor M'Gregor Twilley Wells Fentiman Carrington Rowe Needham Mitchell Mackie Collingwood Fuller Maides Shilton Hagon Budd
Kinsy
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Re: Doyle baptism 1888 - South Africa
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Wednesday 02 August 23 13:52 BST (UK) »
Yes, that is "Van Staden" - and at the bottom of the page (online) the surname "Visagie" is written twice - so the 1st letter can't be a V.
I think the dot above the word is actually the start of the downward stroke of the first letter, and not the dot for an "i" - am going to look at the pages online now to see if I can find a capital letter that starts with a similar downward stroke.
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