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Re: Zenas Edmands
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 29 July 23 22:31 BST (UK) »
Leic Cottage Homes was where the workhouse children were sent from the 1880s onwards.

22 Aug 1890; William Sheen age 9, and Albert Sheen age 4, were admitted from the workhouse to the cottage homes. Their religion was given as "chapel" (as was the case on the workhouse admission, although Zenas's subsequent admissions were "CofE".

They spent the rest of their childhood there.

William was discharged on 31 Jan 1896 to Mr Gunby, farmer, Cosby. (William was with the Gunby family in 1901, a farm servant).
Albert was discharged on 19 Oct 1901 to an unnamed aunt in Blaby.

I'll look for more workhouse details for Zenas and Frederick now.
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Re: Zenas Edmands
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 29 July 23 22:35 BST (UK) »
OK, this is a bit cconfusing because Frederick was transferred to the cottage homes on the same date as William and Albert, but I can't see his admission there, nor Albert's admission to the workhouse. I don't think they're the same child with the wrong name, as the ages are different.

Zenas's discharge dates, to match up to the admission ones:

7 Sept 1895
17 Oct 1896
10 July 1897
29 Oct 1898
7 Oct 1899
-- all the above except 1897 were "to Thurnby by invitation of Mr Cooper".
23 sept 1902 - deceased


Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
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Re: Zenas Edmands
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 29 July 23 22:40 BST (UK) »
Zenas's occupation on his workhouse admissions in 1890, 95 and 96 has been transcribed as "farmer". Initially I assumed this was a mistranscription, but perhaps he actually worked on a farm with or for Mr Cooper at Thurnby.
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Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
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Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
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Re: Zenas Edmands
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 29 July 23 22:49 BST (UK) »
ShaunJ, I think you are onto the right family. If I'm on the right lines then Zenas 1st married Sarah Stephenson sq 1860 in Melton Mowbray and appear together in 1861 census. By 1871 census Zenas is recorded as James aged 40 and occupation Currier. Sarah dies aged 38 in 1876.

Zenas remarries Elizabeth Sheen sq 1878.

Zenas Sheens birth is c 1831 according to census.

Cannot view original image but a transcript on FindMyPast records a baptism/birth of a TENES Sheen male 1828 Birth place Independent,Narborough,Leicester,England Parents Benjamin Hill & Ann Hill.

John

The Leic FHS noncon CD gives several Sheen baptisms, but no Zenas or indeed Tenes. The closest I can see is James, bapt 12 July 1829 at the Presby/independent chapel at Narborough; abode Littlethorpe. Parents Benjamin and Ann (nee Hill, father John Hill) as per post above.

There were several other children to these parents and I can give details if wanted.
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Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)


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Re: Zenas Edmands
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 29 July 23 23:56 BST (UK) »

Cannot view original image but a transcript on FindMyPast records a baptism/birth of a TENES Sheen male 1828 Birth place Independent,Narborough,Leicester,England Parents Benjamin Hill & Ann Hill.

John

The original looks like Zenes to me, 18 May 1828.  Cannot post images on this board, they are on Ancestry.

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Re: Zenas Edmands
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 29 July 23 23:58 BST (UK) »
Duh, yes I can.

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Re: Zenas Edmands
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 30 July 23 10:26 BST (UK) »
Quote
Try another tack, what names witnessed, what was
groom's occupation and residence at the time?

Was this one (re Fred's 1903 marriage record) answered?
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Re: Zenas Edmands
« Reply #43 on: Sunday 30 July 23 11:04 BST (UK) »
Zenas a tanner deceased was on the marriage certificate of  Frederick James Edmands who was born in 1879 and married Nellie Sells in Nottingham in 1903. They moved to Bradford, but I do not know the witness names
Volume 7B
Marriage quarter 4
Volume as transcribed 7B
Marriage year 1903
Page number 589

As for the Zenas Sheen marriages Find My Past does not give that detail unless its a parish marriage
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Re: Zenas Edmands
« Reply #44 on: Sunday 30 July 23 11:18 BST (UK) »
I've found the 1903 marriage record now. He was a Door Keeper of Mount Street, Nottingham. Witnesses Arthur Lake and Gertrude Sells.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/241898835:61840
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