Up the Balkans maybe with MATHEITBEL??

[ShaunJ]

or did the vicar who baptised Charles and Alfred mishear her saying "Mary Taynton" and thought it was one forename?

Possibly the Mary Taynton who was a witness to Alfred's marriage in 1842.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1623/images/31280_195095-00122?pId=2394146

[LizzieL]

or did the vicar who baptised Charles and Alfred mishear her saying "Mary Taynton" and thought it was one forename?

Possibly the Mary Taynton who was a witness to Alfred's marriage in 1842.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1623/images/31280_195095-00122?pId=2394146

i wondered that. The other witness was a Richard Taynton who made his mark. Uncle maybe ??

[LizzieL]

There is a death of a Mary Ann Taynton age 55 registered in Lambeth district in 1845
and a burial of a John Taynton age 32 on 24 Jan 1819 in Lambeth - residence Stockwell.

The nearest Mary I can find in 1841 is a Mary Tanton, living at Harriot Street Lambeth, but with several Tanton children, but they may not be hers, could be nephews / nieces.

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The Mary Ann who died in 1845, lived at East street before her death

[bellowsbrick49]

I decided to do a DNA  "compare and contrast" using "My Heritage" versus "Ancestry". These are the results:-

"My Heritage" online DNA results:-

English 63%
Scandinavian 26.2%
Balkan 9.2%
Nigerian 1%
CUM TOT. 99.4%

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"Ancestry" online DNA results:-

England and North European 67%
Sweden and Denmark 11%
Scotland 9%
Ireland 6%
Wales 5%
Norway 2%
CUM TOT. 100%

So my "Balkan hopes" have been dashed!

It seems that some of the above comments were right on the mark.

[bellowsbrick49]

And now a bit of a "tangent":

The wider family group of AUGUSTA TAYLOR (born 1812 Bristol ) and JOSEPH REUBEN DEAKIN (born 1854)  had some unusual occupations . One of the these I have known about for many years but the other one I found out about only today.

1) Bellows Making . My connections to the "Mr Big" of 19th Century Bellows making is very indirect with many "ups" and "downs". One JOHN COLLINGWOOD ONIONS (born 1809)  was the "Mr Big" of 19th Century bellows manufacture in the British Empire . His company had an extensive catalogue of bellows and (I think) some of the family wealth helped to set up  one of the Art Galleries at the University of Birmingham . And it also led to ALLDAYS car production in Birmingham and a later merger with Royal Enfield (I think).I am hoping that my recent "Ancestry" DNA test will help me see through this maze.

2) Tobacco Pipe Making : This one is today's discovery hence my interest now . THOMAS HUEY and his son WILLIAM FAULKNER HUGHEY (born 1834 Westminster) both did this . This was confirmed by looking at the son's MC which specifically mentions Tobacco - the Censuses merely refer to PIPE MANUFACTURE . This was interesting to me because my father had referred to my great grandfather JOSEPH REUBEN DEAKIN (born 1854 Bristol) as having Uncles who were BRIAR PIPE MANUFACTURERS.

These unusual occupations can help ,I think, when dealing with fairly common (popular) names like TAYLOR or DEAKIN. The ancestors are then easy to identify by reference to their occupation rather than having to rely on their "over popular" surnames.

[bellowsbrick49]

 I have now found out how not to play a "brick wall" over a very long time period !!! Sometimes the "career" part of a family member  is well known but the early years are not.  My GG Grandfather JOSEPH DEAKIN born about 1813 ( Census average DOB) was very well documented job wise  as a BELLOWS MAKER  but little was known about his baptism and who his real DEAKIN parents were . About 15 years ago I put some "weak links" together in my family tree : a sort of "Mr and Mrs Deakin" parents of his , even though I knew that the 2 possibilities I used  were not really married.The "Mr" was JOSEPH DEAKIN born 14 Oct 1789 Birmingham . The "Mrs" was a MARY DEAKIN born 1779 Birmingham who was said to have had  an illegitimate son Joseph Deakin .Really they were just 2 possibilities that could be put together as one pair because of the illegitimacy. Temporarily I thought  , she could be paired  up with this  "Mr Joseph Deakin" . I labelled them  both as weak links but 15 years later I had forgotten about my documentation of this aspect .And so they had stayed in the tree with their weakness as possibilities forgotten as the size and complexity of the tree increased . And  GED files do not know the difference between strong and weak links !!! The documentation about the weakness was hidden away and forgotten about and the size of the tree increased using these weak links . Mistakes were made including:-

1) This "father" from 1789 made a "fine uncle" for another Bellows maker - John Onions Deakin , Bellows Maker born 21 Jan 1836 Birmingham . I thought that  Bellows Making was such an unusual occupation that their had to be a real link between my GG Grandfather Joseph Deakin and this John Onions Deakin also Bellows Maker  . And so I assumed a close connection as they were both Deakins who were Bellow Making  .Putting this "dad" in my tree  opened up the possibility of a link  the really important Onions Bellow making family.

2) And the tree was  also extended in other ways  as WILLIAM DEAKIN born 1811 Handsworth was also deemed by me to be a relative . This opened up the possibility of my Deakin side being linked to the   New Zealand  "whaling"DAKENS ( the surname had altered a bit by then ) and to the Deakin Mormons of Utah . It was all very interesting but the DNA evidence did not seem to bear it out and I began to do some digging .I found that if I removed this 1789 Joseph Deakin then  all links to the Onions , the Dakens of NZ and the Deakins who were Mormons in Utah were also excised . So  my tree has been "cut down to size" . I have realized once again that this Brick Wall is probably here to stay!