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Re: DNA focused family tree.
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 29 June 23 13:07 BST (UK) »
Both Cleal parents are on the 1939 Register in Finchley, Middlesex. Their daughter of 1936 is not listed, so I assume redacted and possibly still alive.

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Re: DNA focused family tree.
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 29 June 23 13:12 BST (UK) »
None of the Cleal children with their parents - evacuated? Staying with rellies away from London.?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 29 June 23 13:15 BST (UK) »
Thread here relating to Winter Street. Possibly a Rootschatter maybe remember the mentioned family?

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=199008.0
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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: DNA focused family tree.
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 29 June 23 13:19 BST (UK) »
None of the Cleal children with their parents - evacuated? Staying with rellies away from London.?

One child definitely with Haskins grandparents in Wales - name is redacted but her married surname inserted later can be read by the visible name of  the person above
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: DNA focused family tree.
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 29 June 23 13:20 BST (UK) »
On the 1939 Register there is also Ernest W Cleal b.1877 and Matilda b.1879 who could be parents also in Finchley. Searched England and Wales and no daughter 'P' listed.

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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 29 June 23 13:32 BST (UK) »
On the 1939 Register there is also Ernest W Cleal b.1877 and Matilda b.1879 who could be parents also in Finchley. Searched England and Wales and no daughter 'P' listed.

Matilda's maiden name was Furnell, so they are likely to be Frank's parents, given one of his forenames. You need to be looking for birth regs with surname Cleal and mother's maiden name Haskins. I find 3. The youngest seems to have died in 2010 (in her married name. there was a notice in the London Gazette in 2010, giving details of who to contact in the event of claims against her estate.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 29 June 23 14:05 BST (UK) »
Don't know if connected, but 1911 has William Wilkinson born 1849 and wife Elizabeth at 31 Winter Street.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWYT-GJY

10 children born only 2 still living. On electrol also has connections to Mottram street.

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: DNA focused family tree.
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 29 June 23 14:15 BST (UK) »
On 1891 census the same couple have two sons William b abt 1874 and Thomas b abt 1880 both born Manchester. They are in Winter street but different number.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 29 June 23 14:20 BST (UK) »
On 1891 census the same couple have two sons William b abt 1874 and Thomas b abt 1880 both born Manchester. They are in Winter street but different number.
William (1874) married Sarah Jolly, I can find two sons William Henry 1900 and Alexander abt 1903
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott