DNA focused family tree.

[stevecoe1955]

Using DNA matches, I have created a tree, for a friend, who was adopted 1958. On her, scant adoption form, it notes her father as T W, aged 21, of 31, Winter Street, Horwich, near Bolton, Butcher.........Using numerous, strong DNA matches and good communication, the tree I created would suggest that my friend's 'grandparents' Frank Leonard Furnell Cleal, 1912-2000, and, Emma Louise Haskins 1913-2001,  have no obvious connection to Terence Wilkinson, mentioned above. I have explored all avenues available to me......two things come to mind, the name and address he gave, could be fictitious.....T could still be living..I assume that he was born 1936/7...my friend was born in Hammersmith, West London 1958........I am in that position that DNA does not lie. DNA matches seem to agree with the Cleal and Haskins families........any suggestions would be most welcome...thanks,, Steve.

[CaroleW]

As you say - he could still be alive - in which case his details need to be deleted from your post.  Rootschat has a strict no living persons policy to protect peoples privacy

[CaroleW]

Perhaps a way forward would be to check Electoral registers for that period & see who else lived at that address.

[Talacharn]

CaroleW; Before your posts I notified the moderator regarding the person maybe still living.

F. L. F. Cleal married E. Haskins Jun-Sep 1933. They had one daughter P. born 1936. In 1954 she married F. A. B and they had two daughters in 1957 and 1961. Could their daughter be the mother, with T. W? If you have traced them through DNA there must be a link. An affair would explain why he was adopted.

[CaroleW]

So the 1957 birth could be the 1958 adoption??

[Talacharn]

There is a birth in 1958 in Rotherham of T. W mmn Porter.

[LizzieL]

Could the couple you mention be the maternal grandparents? It doesn't seem to make sense otherwise. Unless the father named was fictitious as you suggested.
The location doesn't seem right either. The Cleal family seem to be in West London not Lancashire

[Talacharn]

I accept the Cleal family are London based. They married and had a daughter.
What links the family, probably the daughter to T. W of near Bolton?
As I said in a previous post, there is a birth in Rotherham of T. W mmn Porter.
Is he the named father?
If the father’s name was fictitious, why give such a specific location near Bolton and being a Butcher?

There seems to be two families with the same surname combination, one in Rotherham and the other in Bury. Both had other children. In Rotherham 1958 (T. W), 1959, 1961 and 1963. In Bury 1958 and 1960.

R. W. W and J. Porter married 1956 in Bury. I have not yet found the other marriage.

ADDED: Looking at a map Rotherham might be too far away to be considered near Bolton.

[LizzieL]

A TRW married in Bolton RD in 1961. But he may not have been born in 1936/7. But if he was there are 4 candidates, 2 from Yorkshire and 2 from north west London. Could he have been one of the London ones who moved to Lancashire soon after? Lots of ifs and buts her but could be worth investigating.