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Re: Perry missing birth details
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 18 June 23 09:29 BST (UK) »
Hi
Thankyou so much for helping me I'm totally in awe of your skills at finding these people .I found Mary born 1871 she died in 1888 age 14
I just need to learn how to navigate my way around this fabulous resource which I didn't know about before
Thanyou again
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Re: Perry missing birth details
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 18 June 23 09:32 BST (UK) »
There were a few things I couldn't find last night- brothers James & Thomas Perry in 1901 and 1911 census for example.
One good thing about tracing Belfast families for this period is the addresses sometimes help location them in newspaper reports and directories.
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Re: Perry missing birth details
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 18 June 23 09:45 BST (UK) »
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Re: Perry missing birth details
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 18 June 23 11:28 BST (UK) »
Hi
Thankyou so much
I've just found on the site Mary widow of Thomas she died in 1900.though her age must be a few years out on either her marriage or death other details fit in.
And looking for surname Toward on it gave me an Elizabeth Jane born 1845 who married in 1863 to Alexander Roney.this I think could be Mary's sister
Looking at Newtownards where Elizabeth gives her abode I found an interesting entry for a marriage of
Robert Adair and Elizabeth Toward in 1849 a widow and a widower I can't read the name of Elizabeth's father John ?
Could this be the mother of Mary and Elizabeth and the connection of the Adair name as in witnesses to Mary and Thomas's marriage
Looks like no housework will be done today I'm hooked on this

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Re: Perry missing birth details
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 18 June 23 12:42 BST (UK) »
Housework can wait  ;D

Good find on Eliza (Toward) Roney etc. and it ties in nicely to Mary (Toward) Perry. I can't make out mother Elizabeth's maiden name either.

I suspect perhaps Joseph Toward & wife Elizabeth only had the 2 daughters as widow married again in 1849. Here's a bit more-

Joseph Toward (d.bef.1849) m.(c1824-1875) Elizabeth _. She m.(1849 Newtownards) Robert Adair (c1815-1869 Newtownards dist.)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1849/09376/5395944.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1875/020637/7240487.pdf (informant- Eliza Rooney)
1877 Belfast directory- Elizabeth Adair died 90 Market St. in 1875 & daughter Eliza Rooney lived at 101 Market St.
https://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/mcomplete1877.htm
101. Rooney, Alex., cooper
..........Eliza Street intersects
 90. Perry, Thos., lamp lighter
1. Mary Toward (c1844-1900) m.(1861) Thomas Perry (c1844-1890)
2. Elizabeth Jane Toward (c1845-1888) m.(1863) Alexander Roney (c1842-1912), cooper
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1863/09645/5497902.pdf (father Joseph Toward, miner)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1888/06190/4770104.pdf (informant- sister Mary Perry)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05353/4491682.pdf

more to follow shortly...
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Re: Perry missing birth details
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 18 June 23 13:09 BST (UK) »
Hi
Yes definitely housework can wait this is too much of a roll
Thankyou
41 Stanfield Street where Eliza dies is also where the children of Mary and Thomas died Henrietta 1880and William Adair Perry 1882

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Re: Perry missing birth details
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 18 June 23 21:54 BST (UK) »
Sorry for the delay but there was a steady stream of children here this afternoon for Father's Day!

A bit more on Eliza Jane (Toward) Roney-

Elizabeth Jane Toward (c1845-1888) m.(1863) Alexander Roney (c1842-1912), cooper
1. Maria Rooney (9 Sept.1864-1888)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1888/06179/4766640.pdf (informant- aunt Mary Perry)
2. Eliza/Lizzie Rooney (1866-aft.1901) m.(1893) Thomas Reid (c1866-aft.1901)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1866/03511/2291372.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1893/10595/5859742.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ormeau/Dunvegan/1209952/ (Thomas Reid, wife Eliza, their children, Jane Roney, Charles Roney)
   a. John Reid (12 Oct.1893-aft.1901)
   b. Maria Reid (1894-aft.1901)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02242/1844410.pdf
   c. Agnes Reid (1896-aft.1901)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02164/1820276.pdf
   d. Alexander Reid (27 Feb.1898)
   e. Jane Reid (12 July 1899-aft.1901)
   f. Annie Reid (20 July 1901)
   g. David Reid (2 Nov.1902)
   h. Elizabeth Reid (20 Apr.1905)
   i. Thomas Reid (6 Oct.1907)
3. Robert Alexander Rooney (1869)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1869/03399/2246711.pdf
4. Jane Rooney (1871) m.(1901) John Telford, sawyer
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/cert_amends/cert_1872/2196578a.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1901/10314/5754760.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Larne/Meadow/195519/
   a. Jane Gilliland Telford (1902 Belfast-aft.1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01914/1742224.pdf
   b. Charles Henry Telford (1903 Larne-aft.1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1903/01853/1722326.pdf
   c. George Telford (1905 Larne-aft.1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01788/1702156.pdf
   d. Mary Alexander Telford (1906 Belfast-aft.1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01743/1688453.pdf (father’s address Larne)
   e. Maria Telford (1907 Larne-aft.1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01691/1671617.pdf
   f. Elizabeth Telford (1909 Larne-aft.1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1909/01628/1651691.pdf
   g. Percy Seymour Telford (1911 Larne)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01543/1624811.pdf
   h. John Telford (1913 Belfast)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01433/1587823.pdf (informant Agnes Adair)
5. Joseph Rooney (1874)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1874/03140/2151604.pdf (informant- Mary Perry)
6. William Rooney (1877-1893)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03026/2109066.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1893/05988/4703317.pdf (informant- aunt Mary Perry)
7. Charles Rooney (1879-aft.1912), blacksmith
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02888/2058381.pdf
8. Thomas Edward Perry Rooney (1882)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1882/02774/2018486.pdf
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Re: Perry missing birth details
« Reply #16 on: Monday 19 June 23 09:11 BST (UK) »
Wow so much to explore thankyou so much
Kind regards Daisy

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Re: Perry missing birth details
« Reply #17 on: Monday 19 June 23 11:04 BST (UK) »

hi i forgot to mention that
Elizabeth Toward when marrying Adair father Johns name was Crumlin
(with thanks to the writing translation page on this site)
Daisy
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