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I am looking for my fifth great grandfather, his name was John Heard. He was a solicitor and or an attorney , who lived in hoopers square and Prescott Street, in  London in 1832.

John was born in 1788ish  birth location is unknown and I have not been able to locate him in 1841 census and unable to trace his death .

John married a lady called Jane Colwill in sept 1816 in Greenwich london

John was located in the resistants directory record in 1811 as a solitor residing at Hoopers square and the last record was located in 1832, residing in Prescott Street.

I am unable to locate a burial , will or even when he was born.

I hope someone is able to help me please, as I am unable to trace any further back

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Re: Tracing my 5th great grandad not sure if I posted right place .. HELP PLS
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 June 23 11:43 BST (UK) »
There are Articles of Clerkship records stating that in 1794 John Heard of St George Msx was articled for five years to Daniel Sees of St Mary’s Whitechapel, Attorney of His Majesty’s Court of Kings Bench and Solicitor in the High Court of Chancery, when Daniel Sees died two years later in 1796 the article of clerkship was transferred to Edward Baddeley of Leman Street, Attorney of His Majesty’s Court of Kings Bench and Common Please and Solicitor in the High Court of Chancery.

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Re: Tracing my 5th great grandad not sure if I posted right place .. HELP PLS
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 June 23 12:02 BST (UK) »
London Metropolitan archives has some insurance records.
He owned other properties




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Re: Tracing my 5th great grandad not sure if I posted right place .. HELP PLS
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 June 23 12:40 BST (UK) »
I searched at BNA for “Heard Hoopers”

Newspaper references to Mr Heard, Hooper(s)-square, [from 1817 Lemon-street is usually included in the address], Goodman's-fields start in October 1800. They are usually references to him acting as attorney in bankruptcies. These peter out at the end of 1823. In October 1824 he is named as one of the agents for the sale of a sale of property. Nothing after that with this search term.

Searched for "Heard Prescott"
two hits 1831, 1832 acting in bankruptcy cases

Searched for "attorney Mr Heard"
one hit, 1831

Searched for "Heard Great Prescott" several hits in 1828

searched for Mr Heard in the 1824-1828 gap
found a property sale Mr Heard, solicitor, 59, Prescot-street, Goodman's-fields in 1825

Did he move or was it simply that streets were renamed?

In any case he can’t have been born in 1788.
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Re: Tracing my 5th great grandad not sure if I posted right place .. HELP PLS
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 June 23 12:49 BST (UK) »
John and Jane had two sons before marriage, John born in 1812 and Thomas born in 1815.  They were baptised together in 1816.

In 1841 some of the younger children were living with their eldest brother John in Shoreditch.

Piece: 708
Book: 4
Folio: 36
Page number:10

Perhaps this means that both parents were deceased by then.  The youngest child seems to be William, baptised in 1830 at Whitechapel. The address was Rupert Street.

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 June 23 13:09 BST (UK) »
If Lemon Street was in St Saviour, Southwark, then it looks like it was renamed Loman Street, then Sawyer Street.

See here:
https://www.maps.thehunthouse.com/Streets/Old_to_New_Abolished_London_Street_Names.htm#L
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 June 23 13:29 BST (UK) »
Hooper Square was essentially an extension of Prescot Street, on the other side of Leman Street, in what I think is Whitechapel.

It is now Hooper Street.

OS large scale plan 1848-1851;

https://maps.nls.uk/view/229949414#zoom=7&lat=7200&lon=5612&layers=BT

added: I realised later that "Lemon Street' would have been Leman Street. Also, see reference to Leman Street in reply #1
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Re: Tracing my 5th great grandad not sure if I posted right place .. HELP PLS
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 June 23 14:14 BST (UK) »

John married a lady called Jane Colwill in sept 1816 in Greenwich london

John was located in the resistants directory record in 1811 as a solitor residing at Hoopers square and the last record was located in 1832, residing in Prescott Street.

I am unable to locate a burial , will or even when he was born.


there's a burial of a John Heard aged 60 in Greenwich on 29 Jan 1828, says residence was Greenwich Hospital, which I thought might be for Greenwich pensioners, so unlikely to be your man.

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Just noticed that your John last sighted in 1832, so definitely not the one.
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 07 June 23 20:43 BST (UK) »
Jane Heard of Prescott Street  buried Whitechapel age 45 18 Jan 1832
Entry above is for an Ann Heard age 70 of Ch. Lane…coincidence?