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Re: George James Kent, born Plymouth, Devon abt. 1830. died New Zealand, May, 1909.
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 17 May 23 00:03 BST (UK) »
Is this your family?

1876/559   KENT  George    marr    HEATH  Harriet

1876/11628   KENT   Elizabeth Harriet  parents Harriet / Joseph
1879/3252   KENT   Sarah Louisa     parents Harriet / George
1879/9081   KENT   Rose                 parents Harriet / George
1881/499           KENT   George James     parents Harriet / George
1882/4834   KENT   Henry John     parents Harriet / George

death
1879/2133   KENT   Sarah Louisa   1M

* Can you please list all the information on the marriage record.

* Can you please list all the information on the death record, 1909.

What documents do you have for the BDM events in the lives of the people named here?

Evening Star 25 May 1909 p5   
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD19090525.2.40?
.........death of George Kent (seventy-nine years of age)........

Deceased, when a young man, took part in one of the expeditions despatched to the Arctic regions in search of Sir John Franklin.

(John Franklin's expedition to find a north west passage was 1845-46. His wife raised money to fund search for the missing men, with dedicated search expeditions starting 1850.)

Evening Star 22 May 1909 p6
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD19090522.2.60?
....Deceased leaves a widow, and two adult sons and a daughter.

Which daughter is alive at 1909?



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Re: George James Kent, born Plymouth, Devon abt. 1830. died New Zealand, May, 1909.
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 17 May 23 01:34 BST (UK) »
Is this your family?

1876/559   KENT  George    marr    HEATH  Harriet

1876/11628   KENT   Elizabeth Harriet  parents Harriet / Joseph
1879/3252   KENT   Sarah Louisa     parents Harriet / George
1879/9081   KENT   Rose                 parents Harriet / George
1881/499           KENT   George James     parents Harriet / George
1882/4834   KENT   Henry John     parents Harriet / George

death
1879/2133   KENT   Sarah Louisa   1M

* Can you please list all the information on the marriage record.

* Can you please list all the information on the death record, 1909.

What documents do you have for the BDM events in the lives of the people named here?

Evening Star 25 May 1909 p5   
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD19090525.2.40?
.........death of George Kent (seventy-nine years of age)........

Deceased, when a young man, took part in one of the expeditions despatched to the Arctic regions in search of Sir John Franklin.

(John Franklin's expedition to find a north west passage was 1845-46. His wife raised money to fund search for the missing men, with dedicated search expeditions starting 1850.)

Evening Star 22 May 1909 p6
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ESD19090522.2.60?
....Deceased leaves a widow, and two adult sons and a daughter.

Which daughter is alive at 1909?

Yes. This is my family.
Elizabeth Harriet would have been the daughter still alive in 1930.
The name Joseph may be an error as George Kent and Harriet Heath married in January 1876 and Elizabeth was born the same year
.I do not have official printouts of her birth details or many others mostly because of the cost. (NZ$25 per printout)
Her married name was Pritchard.
Rose and Sarah Louisa were infants when they died.
Elizabeth Harriet is named along with her mother and brothers on a photograph taken in 1884.
Both of her brothers married, the wife of George James was my grandmother, Makareti Hinenuiatekawa Coupar. They have many descendants from their 15 children.



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Re: George James Kent, born Plymouth, Devon abt. 1830. died New Zealand, May, 1909.
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 17 May 23 01:39 BST (UK) »


What documents do you have for the BDM events in the lives of the people named here?

Can you be specific please.

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Re: George James Kent, born Plymouth, Devon abt. 1830. died New Zealand, May, 1909.
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 17 May 23 03:19 BST (UK) »


What documents do you have for the BDM events in the lives of the people named here?

Can you be specific please.

I hope this will answer your question.

I have two printouts, which are scanned copies of the original handwritten BDM registration information held by the NZ Department of Internal Affairs.

One is for the marriage of George Kent and Harriet Heath in 1876
The other is for the death of George Kent in 1909.

I think I have already included all the information that these  contain in earlier posts.





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Re: George James Kent, born Plymouth, Devon abt. 1830. died New Zealand, May, 1909.
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 17 May 23 04:24 BST (UK) »

"The name Joseph may be an error "

Who is the author of this error?

The name of the informant would be useful to know. If father is the informant then you know how he names himself.

"I think I have already included all the information that these  contain in earlier posts."

The marriage, 1876,is the earliest recorded evidence you have that your George KENT ever existed. Information on this document is important for people on a forum to assist you.

A marriage, 1876, will record the name of a church / denomination.  What do you see?

A marriage, 1876, will record names of witnesses. What do you see?

A marriage will record information about the bride. What do you see?

A  death record, 1909, will record marriage details. What do you see?

A death record, 1909, will record details about children. What do you see?

A death record, 1909, will record burial details. What do you see?

You have not given all the information that you have. If required details are left blank, that is useful information.






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Re: George James Kent, born Plymouth, Devon abt. 1830. died New Zealand, May, 1909.
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 24 May 23 14:25 BST (UK) »

"The name Joseph may be an error "

Who is the author of this error?

The name of the informant would be useful to know. If father is the informant then you know how he names himself.

"I think I have already included all the information that these  contain in earlier posts."

The marriage, 1876,is the earliest recorded evidence you have that your George KENT ever existed. Information on this document is important for people on a forum to assist you.

A marriage, 1876, will record the name of a church / denomination.  What do you see?

A marriage, 1876, will record names of witnesses. What do you see?

A marriage will record information about the bride. What do you see?

A  death record, 1909, will record marriage details. What do you see?

A death record, 1909, will record details about children. What do you see?

A death record, 1909, will record burial details. What do you see?

You have not given all the information that you have. If required details are left blank, that is useful information.

Date and place of marriage: House of Rev. Dr. Stuart. Geo. St. Dunedin.
George Kent. full age. fisherman. bachelor.
Harriet Heath. full age. spinster.
Officiating Minister  D.M. Stuart
When married 31 Jan. 1876.
Marriage was solemnized between George Kent and Harriet Heath
Donald M Stuart D.D. (officiating Minister or Registrar)
in the presence of 
Edward Benjamin Ravenhall, fishmonger. Cannongate, Dunedin.
Frances Lucy Fullam, Duncan St., Dunedin.
When registered: 31 Jan. 1876.

(Rev. Stuart was the minister at Knox  Presbyterian Church in Dunedin.
The marriage of George Kent and Harriet Heath is also listed in the church records.)

Death  1909 May 21, Otakou.
George James Kent.  farmer.   male 79 years.
Verdict of coroner - accidentally drowned.
Father - George James Kent  fisherman
Mother - Helen Kent,  formerly Mitchell
Buried - 1909 May 24 cemetery Otakou
Name and religion of minister or witness of burial - W. T. Drake. Minister. (religion not stated but was later ordained C of E.)
Where born and how long in New Zealand  - Plymouth, England. 45 years.
Where married - Dunedin, Otago.
At what age married - 32 years
To whom married - Harriet Heath
Issue living - 2 males  27 years, 28 years, 1 female 33 years.
Informant - John Giillies (can’t decipher description which is in an abbreviated form) authorised in writing by the coroner.
(signature of Registrar) 1909 June 26.

The birth of Elizabeth Harriet was registered on Nov 1 1876. (born 1876 Sept. 22)
The informant was Harriet Kent, mother of the child.
Father -Joseph Kent fisherman age 36  born Plymouth. England.
Mother - Harriet Kent  age 23 formerly Heath born Guildford, Surrey.
When and where married - 1876 January 31 Dunedin.

Henry John - birth registered 1882 March 22.
Father - George Kent fisherman age 47 born Plymouth Devonshire
Mother - Harriet Kent formerly Heath born Guildford Surrey.
When and where married 1876 January 31 Dunedin.
Informant - George Kent father of child.


When Harriet Kent gave the date of her marriage when she registered her daughter’s birth she hadn’t married the same person she named as the child’s father.
George Kent gives his age as 47 in 1882 so he is not Joseph who was 36 in 1876.
That also means he was not 32 when he married as stated in his death documents

However, if he did give his correct age when he registered their son’s birth it also means that he would have been born about 1834, not 1830 and would have been around 75, not 79 when he died.

I would have thought that his age would have been verified in some way  at his inquest but perhaps everything pertaining to that is just guesswork.

 







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Re: George James Kent, born Plymouth, Devon abt. 1830. died New Zealand, May, 1909.
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 24 May 23 15:10 BST (UK) »
Is the death certificate the only document that gives a middle name for George Kent.
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Re: George James Kent, born Plymouth, Devon abt. 1830. died New Zealand, May, 1909.
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 24 May 23 21:01 BST (UK) »
One tree on ancestry has a baptism for Harriett Heath, 28 June 1848, St. Mary Guildford
Parents George and Harriett
Source England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975.

She is transcribed on ancestry as Henriett Hath (Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1921)

Death in NZ in 1929
Harriet Kent, age 81

The birth of Elizabeth Harriet was registered on Nov 1 1876. (born 1876 Sept. 22)
The informant was Harriet Kent, mother of the child.
Father -Joseph Kent fisherman age 36  born Plymouth. England.
Mother - Harriet Kent  age 23 formerly Heath born Guildford, Surrey.

So Harriet's age was well out on that birth registration. And she was the informant. Apparently!
No age given for Harriet on Henry John's registration?

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Re: George James Kent, born Plymouth, Devon abt. 1830. died New Zealand, May, 1909.
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 24 May 23 22:42 BST (UK) »
Is the death certificate the only document that gives a middle name for George Kent.

The Public Trustee names him as George James on the document stamped by the probate office, but he died intestate, so that may have been taken from his death certificate?