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A date for this gentlemen's portrait
« on: Saturday 13 May 23 23:17 BST (UK) »
This is a copy of a copy of the original artwork, we don't know who might have the original.

Is there enough clothing to suggest a date when his portrait was created?
And then theirs his hair style and lack of whiskers to consider.

Thoughts on his age would be welcome too.

Look forward to hearing from you
Thank you
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Hetherington (William - born England Aprox 1834 Salford, Cabinet Maker, died Dublin - Father also William born Ireland),
Wilson, Wright, Morely, Morris (Jewish blood and a name change in there somewhere, but who and when?)
James, Driscoll, Collins, Murphy (all end up in Ireland far too quickly)
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Re: A date for this gentlemen's portrait
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 May 23 18:17 BST (UK) »
1840's-50's but more likely 50's.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: A date for this gentlemen's portrait
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 May 23 02:44 BST (UK) »
Jim1
Thank you, I suspected that time period, but a second opinion is most welcome.

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Hetherington (William - born England Aprox 1834 Salford, Cabinet Maker, died Dublin - Father also William born Ireland),
Wilson, Wright, Morely, Morris (Jewish blood and a name change in there somewhere, but who and when?)
James, Driscoll, Collins, Murphy (all end up in Ireland far too quickly)
Sewell (Bexley, Kent)
Harrison, Higginson, Mitchell - Sussex
Tench, Ireland
Hogg,

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Re: A date for this gentlemen's portrait
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 May 23 17:38 BST (UK) »
Cleaned it a little but nothing altered, the colours are original. He looks fairly young; mid thirties maybe? regards, John.


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Re: A date for this gentlemen's portrait
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 May 23 20:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the colourisation the person I'm asking for will be pleased I think
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Hetherington (William - born England Aprox 1834 Salford, Cabinet Maker, died Dublin - Father also William born Ireland),
Wilson, Wright, Morely, Morris (Jewish blood and a name change in there somewhere, but who and when?)
James, Driscoll, Collins, Murphy (all end up in Ireland far too quickly)
Sewell (Bexley, Kent)
Harrison, Higginson, Mitchell - Sussex
Tench, Ireland
Hogg,

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Re: A date for this gentlemen's portrait
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 17 May 23 14:49 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your reply, but, as I said in my post "original colours"; no colour was added, John.

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Re: A date for this gentlemen's portrait
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 May 23 00:32 BST (UK) »
Hoobaloo,
I'm not sure I understand what you're telling me.

With my colour vision deficiency I was not seeing anything more than a line drawing with a colour wash of indeterminate hue. What you achieved is colourization for me, and I liked it.
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Hetherington (William - born England Aprox 1834 Salford, Cabinet Maker, died Dublin - Father also William born Ireland),
Wilson, Wright, Morely, Morris (Jewish blood and a name change in there somewhere, but who and when?)
James, Driscoll, Collins, Murphy (all end up in Ireland far too quickly)
Sewell (Bexley, Kent)
Harrison, Higginson, Mitchell - Sussex
Tench, Ireland
Hogg,

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Re: A date for this gentlemen's portrait
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 May 23 02:08 BST (UK) »
The original drawing is very beautiful, and most skilfully done. A fine portrait. It is a shame you don’t have the original to see the artist’s name, as that might help you with the dating.
The sitter is young, possibly 20s-30s – not easy to be more exact than that.

The strange version posted in reply #3, with intensified colours and blurred detail, in my opinion, is certainly not an enhancement of the original.
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Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
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Re: A date for this gentlemen's portrait
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 May 23 05:08 BST (UK) »
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