Alice Steel/ Steele/ Steed London 1900's

[Girl Guide]

That's a good find Jon.    Suitable sort of age.  I'll have a look and see if I can find anything likely as a birth record.

Added:  Rather a long list of just Alice born in London. None of them have the Steel/Steele/Steed name.

[Girl Guide]

Okay I've looked for births in the MQ 1897 as according to my maths that is when Alice would have been born.  Age given as 24 years and four months in the 1921 census.

No births with the name of Steed. 

These two for Steele:-

Births Mar 1897   
Steele    Alice Annie V        Middlesbro'    9d   628    
Steele    Alice May        Birmingham    6d   26

Unless Alice gave an incorrect birthplace, which was London, not the above two.

For Steel:-

Births Mar 1897   
Steel    Alice        Elham    2a   1042

Elham is Kent, so in theory not the above either.

[Neale1961]

For Steel:-
Births Mar 1897   
Steel    Alice        Elham    2a   1042
Elham is Kent, so in theory not the above either.

No, not this one.
In 1911 this Alice Steel (age 14) is living with her mother in Folkestone, working as apprentice dressmaker.
ALice married Frank CLAYSON in 1922 Elham. She appears on the 1939 Reg with her husband and mother, in Folkestone.

[Neale1961]

Who is the Alice Brams, born 1897, London, in the 1921 free index?
Head is Janet Gooch, 58, born Norwood, Surrey
So the address is 281 Camden Road, Islington

From free searching Alice comes up as servant (relationship) and also as married?

Hopefully someone with access to the 1921 census can find her full details.
Given that Doris’ birth was registered in Holborn, Alice in Camden Rd Islington is in the right vicinity.
I would be interested to see the birth cert. for the address, etc.

Birth registration:
BRAMS, DORIS  VIOLET                Mother: DERRICK 
GRO Reference: 1922  J Quarter in HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 1040

[mckha489]

Who is the Alice Brams, born 1897, London, in the 1921 free index?
Head is Janet Gooch, 58, born Norwood, Surrey
So the address is 281 Camden Road, Islington

From free searching Alice comes up as servant (relationship) and also as married?

Hopefully someone with access to the 1921 census can find her full details.
Given that Doris’ birth was registered in Holborn, Alice in Camden Rd Islington is in the right vicinity.
I would be interested to see the birth cert. for the address, etc.

Birth registration:
BRAMS, DORIS  VIOLET                Mother: DERRICK 
GRO Reference: 1922  J Quarter in HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 1040

1921
Alice Brams, domestic servant, 24 yrs & 4 mths,  married,  born London, England
Employed by Mrs Gooch

[rachtravem]

Have just been told full name if Alice. Alice Myrtle Steel

[Neale1961]

1922 electoral roll
Charles Brams, and Elizabeth Brams are living at
287 Cricklewood Lane, Hendon, Barnet.
(That could be the parents of CAF Brams. It seems to have been the family home for at least 5 years)

[rachtravem]

https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3473721/3473724/61/brams

The Cardiff court reports refer to Charles as "cripple" and he appeals to the court "to have pity on a poor cripple". Genuine or acon?

It would seem that Charles A F Brams Senior was the "cripple" not junior. it was Charles jr who's parents were thiefs.

[Neale1961]

Correct - as stated in reply #9.