John willie Bennett

[wilcoxon]

Of course they are, apologies. 🙂

[rosie99]

Sorry about my mistake I should have said that I cannot find him in the 1901 census, yes Ellen and Joseph Bennett were brother and sister of John Willie, When their mother died Joseph and Ellen were put in an orphanage in Warrington (tried to get some information about this but the orphanage burnt down and all records where lost)

After Marys death all three children appear to still be living with their father as school admittance records name him with the families address.  They do not appear to have gone into an orphanage immediately.
The latest school record I can see for John W was admittance on 16th February 1886 - Joseph 4th April 1887 and Ellen 6 February 1888 all 3 naming Henry and giving the family address.  It was later in 1888 that Henry was summoned for not paying towards his children who were receiving industrial training as previously mentioned.  The industrial school in Warrington at this time appears to be this one https://www.formerchildrenshomes.org.uk/padgate_cottage_homes.html

[rosie99]

Warrington, Silver Street Wesleyan Methodist School
John William Bennett - School admission 16 Feb 1884 - Father Henry Bennett 8 Hamilton Street - Last school St Annes - Born 4-1875

Sorry everybody but I misread that school admission date it should  be 1886

[wilcoxon]

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=248536.msg1368541#msg1368541

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=46177.9

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=205590.9

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=219458.msg1148570#msg1148570


Some more posts regarding this family.

[heywood]

Gosh, those are old posts and I think we have found a bit more about the family in general.

Rosie tells us that Joseph’s school admission was 4th April 1887, from the home address.
There is a newspaper snippet possibly about Joseph involved in theft and Henry in 1889.
I think we have mentioned that this is likely to be Joseph in 1891 3082/60 in the industrial school, so perhaps things just went wrong in those couple of years.

[rayben]

Hi Dundee at the time of his brother search for him Joseph was working as a miner in Sutton manor his brother had gone to Sutton looking for him, Joseph was informed by mine workers who lived in Sutton but sadly to late for Joseph. Sutton Manor was a pit village as Sutton also had a great deal of miners living there and some of them would be working at Sutton Manor colliery and Sutton is only 3/4 miles away.

[rayben]

On the Family search you can see a copy of the marriage cert from Warrington parish registers of Joseph Bennett & Martha Ellen Hacket which shows his father as Henry Bennett.Also on Family search you can see Josephs christening date which shows his father as Henry Bennett and mother as Mary, in the Warrington parish records you will find John Williams Birth with his mother named as Mary Tomlinson who was the wife of Henry Bennett

[heywood]

Son Fred living next door with wife Elizabeth G is also working as an inspector in a steel works.He returned to the UK for a new passport it was issued 8th Aug 1932.In March 1933 Fred shown as returning to Kearney NJ USA,

Fred’s return in 1933
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24J1-FNF

Here is the second page of that record - the top line shows Fred’s father’s details - 19 Begonia Avenue

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sai/

Lancashire Electoral Registers Farnworth 1939
19 Begonia Avenue, Farnworth
John and Ruth Bennett

He is there in 1934
John Bennett
Margaret Jane Bennett
William Bennett

[wilcoxon]

Son Fred living next door with wife Elizabeth G is also working as an inspector in a steel works.He returned to the UK for a new passport it was issued 8th Aug 1932.In March 1933 Fred shown as returning to Kearney NJ USA,

Fred’s return in 1933
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24J1-FNF

Here is the second page of that record - the top line shows Fred’s father’s details - 19 Begonia Avenue

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01sai/

Lancashire Electoral Registers Farnworth 1939
19 Begonia Avenue, Farnworth
John and Ruth Bennett

He is there in 1934
John Bennett
Margaret Jane Bennett
William Bennett

Image 166 of the 1933 record has Fred's sister Frances Flatt/ Platt, he is going to stay with her.
Surely these are the children of Margaret Jane Blue and John Bennett son of Richard Bennett.
I'm getting confused now.😉