John willie Bennett

[Dundee]

Debra,
Just to say, all this information has been mentioned earlier in various forms.

Yes I know, I thought it might be useful for rayben to look at the actual documents which I don't think they have so far.

......my grandfather Joseph, johns brother.

If Joseph said that his brother John emigrated to America then you just need to go through the emigration records which will be a difficult job.

I would also be looking at Home Children to Canada.

https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/Pages/home-children.aspx

There was a John BENNETT who sailed from Liverpool in 1884 aged 9 years.

Debra 

[heywood]

Thanks for that Debra.
I thought about the Home children and tried a couple of searches but I am not familiar with them.

I was just saying that all these records have been mentioned and need to be looked at closely.
Rayben , you might only have F S but the migration records hold quite a bit of information. As they are later records, they run over on to two pages.

[rayben]

I don't think we are going to agree and I will have believe what grandfather told me about the family including him having a brother named JohnWillie who emigrated to the USA and a sister Ellen who I was taken to visit with my grandfather.

[heywood]

I don't think we are going to agree and I will have believe what grandfather told me about the family including him having a brother named JohnWillie who emigrated to the USA and a sister Ellen who I was taken to visit with my grandfather.

That’s fine, it is your family. We all agree that Henry and Mary had those children. Your grandfather’s brother may have emigrated and returned. We are not disputing that either.
I can only urge you to check the records though. Your last one re Fred really confirms our information, I think.
You did mention that the US contact has a different father for John Bennett so perhaps you could explore their family records too.
Best wishes with your research
Heywood 

[wilcoxon]

Idenden Family Tree

It might be worth you checking this tree on Ancestry.
It has all the people you have going to America.
It also has details of Pearl Bennett mmn Blue .
In 1944 Pearl married Thomas Berry, this matches the details on 1939 register.
Have you got your Grandfather's marriage certificate.

[Dundee]

Idenden Family Tree

It might be worth you checking this tree on Ancestry.
It has all the people you have going to America.
It also has details of Pearl Bennett mmn Blue .
In 1944 Pearl married Thomas Berry, this matches the details on 1939 register.
Have you got your Grandfather's marriage certificate.

We have already established that this BENNETT family is not rayben's family.  They are looking for the brother of their grandfather Joseph.

Debra 

[Dundee]

...... he came back to the uk in 1913 to try and find his brother and sister but failed and returned to the U.S.A.

If he couldn't find his family, how did Joseph know that John had returned to look for them?

Debra 

[wilcoxon]

Idenden Family Tree

It might be worth you checking this tree on Ancestry.
It has all the people you have going to America.
It also has details of Pearl Bennett mmn Blue .
In 1944 Pearl married Thomas Berry, this matches the details on 1939 register.
Have you got your Grandfather's marriage certificate.

We have already established that this BENNETT family is not rayben's family.  They are looking for the brother of their grandfather Joseph.

Debra 

Yes  I realise that but there is enough there to prove that it cannot be the ones that Rayber believes to be his family.
Unfortunately he doesn't agree.
I suggest the Grandfather Josephs marriage certificate to confirm fathers name, also names of witnesses that might help.
Perhaps it's already been found to be Henry Bennett, occupation?  deceased?

[Dundee]

Joseph's two marriages are transcribed on Lancs. OPC, both have Henry, a pavior, as father.  This was mentioned in the thread earlier on.  Ellen's marriage to Thomas MARSH in 1898 is also there.

https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

There is no doubt that the three are siblings, it is just the problem of what happened to John after the 1881 census.  The last sighting of him was a school record from Feb 1884.

Debra