Robert FREW globetrotting priest

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Ada WHITELEY was never officially married
So is not the Ada nee SMITH
or the one in 1940 NEW. YORK

I had another go at getting Albert Adair s will
Couldn't find the correct reference on ancestry or on the death record of gov probates
I didn't try under his original Surname of ABDERHAMAN /OBDERHAMAN

It's odd - he's definitely on the probate register. I can see the image on their system and on Ancestry. But if you put his details into the order form, it doesn't find him. I can only assume there's a transcription error somewhere

Name    Albert Adair Whiteley
Death Date    18 Dec 1988
Death Place    Sunningdale Berkshire
Probate Date    19 Apr 1989
Probate Registry    London

[brigidmac]

the family in reply 95 are very interesting
 Ada  Kirely or Dekirely came over from Canada age 15 with her father + mother Adeline + sisters

she was born in Constantinople and her father was Evangelical

so is there a connection thru her husband Joseph Whitely to adopted Albert Adair WHITELEY or Ada WHITELEY in london or reginald who was boarding with them .

yes Mabel it is odd that date is listed on ancestry but not on GRO

.I wonder if the  will +probate is listed under a military title on gov,Site
Im not good at playing around with variables  !
was he major when he died ?

[brigidmac]

there is also a swedish connection to joseph Whiteley 
his mother Eliza Bjork was a Swedish national

married his father william H whitely in sweden

[brigidmac]

the local family history society have offered to help look for Albert Adair WHITELY s will + probate

[brigidmac]

It could've useful to find Albert Adair WHITELEY in 1921

He was naturalised in 1928

So could have been going by his birth surname .

[JayC031]

The link posted in reply #5 is about a painting bequeathed to a gallery in Christchurch, NZ. Here I summarize the salient facts that are given there.

Kathleen Muriel Kay (1904-1949) was born in Wellington NZ, parents Rev Thomas Kay and Fanny Buckley (married 1902)

Family moved to London in ~1906

Kathleen married George F Gee (1st cousin) in 1936 in Peshawar, later divorced.

Kathleen married AAW in London in 1947.

Kathleen died, Windsor 2 years later.

AAW remarried, and died in 1988.

His intention that the painting should be given to Christchurch in memory of Kathleen was honoured following the death of his second wife in 2012.

Just a thought but - was it the wrong Christchurch? – RJD was born in Wellington NZ ie. on the North Island, Christchurch is on the South Island. Her family moved to London when she was 2 years old. What connection could she have to Christchurch?
RF does have a reference to working (1925-27) at Christ Church in Mayfair!  -
Do we know the church where Kathleen married AAW in 1947?
JC

According to Albert's probate his first wife was born in Chirstchurch and the painting was intended for Christchurch NZ on the death of his second wife.

[JayC031]

Hi John This is interesting, that's our man. So he returned to Scotland at this point for a while. Where did this come from?
JC

All these Robert Frews

In 1920 there is a Robert Frew (Scotch)aged 52 occupation Clergman,travelling to Constantinople, Turkey. He had been staying with a Mary McKee at 15 Barbadses Road, Kilmarnock. His age is bang on for 1868 birth.

John

Do you have any more information on that? According the The Orient newspaper it appears that he was not preaching in Constantinople between July 1920- November 1920. He was also in the US in Jan 1921. Do these dates match with him being in Kilmarnock?
JC

[softly softly]

JayC031, to be quite honest without reading the complete post again I moved onto other things. The opening post was looking for details of Robert Frew. I believe we have as far as I can remember found his parents, when and where he was born, when he died, whom he married/parted from. His movements during his lifetime are reasonably covered. His relationship with Arthur Adair Whiteley & Ada though was never fully understood. I was hoping that Abert's marriage cert would have been ordered to establish whom he named as his father.

John

[Swissnational]

I think I can help. I knew Albert Adair Whiteley (b. 1899) and his second wife Jean (née Russell) in person & went to see them often at „Eastways“ in Sunningdale. Bertie was the son of an English teacher at the Palace in Constantinople and one of the (Crown?) Princes. The pregnant teacher was secretly helped to leave and Robert Frew later became Albert‘s guardian. Jean once showed me the key to one of the gates of Constantinople that was in Bertie‘s possession. That‘s the gist of the story.