Need help with name please.

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1950 US census.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHK-SQHW-T9B2?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A6F3N-JF4T&action=view&groupId=TH-7771-115406-1589-49

john

[Mitche11]

Percy Painter who married Frances Taylor/Morley was received in prison 29 Oct 1923 and again on 27 July 1928, in 1923 he was a coil maker and in 1928 he was a railway porter.

Name      Percy Painter
Trial Age      23
Birth Date      1900
Trial Date      8 Nov 1923
Trial Place      Newington, London, England
Occupation   Coil Maker
Charge      False pretenses
Sentence      2 years

Name      Percy Painter
Trial Age      27
Birth Date      1901
Trial Date      7 Aug 1928
Trial Place      Newington, London, England
Occupation.  Railway Porter
Charge      Breaking and entering; Stealing; Receiving

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Info only re Raymond Francis Lane

1921 census

Raymond Francis
Lane
1899
Massachusetts, United States
St Michael, St Mary Magdalene
Oxford
Oxfordshire

John

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Sorry to ask another question. Did Frances die as Frances Morley in 1951 Croydon. If so this death registration gives a birth year of 1875. Stephen married Martha Morley sq 1875. Wondering if she was this birth ref

MORLEY, FRANCES       - 
GRO Reference: 1875  M Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 152

John

She died Frances Painter in 1929, she was buried 3 Sept 1929 at Morden, Surrey, her birth on burial record is 1889.

As a matter of interest what are the details recorded on the death certificate, address, informant etc.

John

[Mitche11]

Sorry to ask another question. Did Frances die as Frances Morley in 1951 Croydon. If so this death registration gives a birth year of 1875. Stephen married Martha Morley sq 1875. Wondering if she was this birth ref

MORLEY, FRANCES       - 
GRO Reference: 1875  M Quarter in KENSINGTON  Volume 01A  Page 152

John

She died Frances Painter in 1929, she was buried 3 Sept 1929 at Morden, Surrey, her birth on burial record is 1889.

As a matter of interest what are the details recorded on the death certificate, address, informant etc.

John

I don't have the death certificate.

[jonwarrn]

Image of the Battersea New Cemetery in Morden burial
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9YN-63DZ-Z

3 Sep 1929
Frances Painter
1 West Park Road Epsom
Age 40 years

That must be the address of the West Park asylum.

[jonwarrn]

Silence from Mitche11

Stumbled across this.
Admission of Percy Painter to poor law institutions
Percy Painter, born 17.10.1900
Porter
Homeless, says wife Francis (sic) Painter in hospital

Percy back later in the month, his father Albert named?
And in October, back again, wife mentioned.

[Mitche11]

Silence from Mitche11

Stumbled across this.
Admission of Percy Painter to poor law institutions
Percy Painter, born 17.10.1900
Porter
Homeless, says wife Francis (sic) Painter in hospital

Percy back later in the month, his father Albert named?
And in October, back again, wife mentioned.

This is a great find, where did you find this information? Thank you John your input has been amazing 

[jonwarrn]

Hi
I wouldn't say my input has been amazing, certainly some brilliant stuff from the others 

Don't know if these are also hidden away on ancestry
Percy at the Christ Church Institution in 1928 (two images)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1L-7955-1

On to the workhouse (or whatever they called it then) in Newington
On the same page, two images
Two entries for Percy
One for Percy and Frances
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1Y-CSZB-S

There should be an exam / case paper for Percy (and Frances) in Southwark, possibly in 1926, noted on there as case paper 61983.
That seems to be exam (or exams) number 24298, but it's not in its place in the bundle (which is online) It may have been moved because of those further encounters  with the system.
Jon