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Re: Thomas Robertson Brennan 1922
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 20 April 23 16:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Debbie,

Thank you so much for this. How did you find this information? I've been looking at could not find the information on The Scottish Archives, Ancestry and Find my Past. Would you mind sharing so i can look please? I know there were three Stanley roads in the borough of Glasgow and I believe two of them have since changed name. If I can get the information for the other two addresses as well as the website you used to obtain the information, I may have a lead. I will look into the names of the people you have found above and see what I can find.

Thanks for your help  :)

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Re: Thomas Robertson Brennan 1922
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 20 April 23 16:17 BST (UK) »
@ Girl Guide,
sorry I didn't respond fully. To answer your questions, I have his marriage and death certificate and met him a few times as a little girl. Its his early life which is the big mystery. There has always been a lot of questions around him and lots of stories were put forward as to who he was and where he came from - some quite elaborate. Sadly my father recently passed away and I really regret not asking more questions about him although I suspect, I would not be any further along in trying to identify who he was and where he came from because I don't think anyone really knew. He moved from Scotland to London with my Grandma and they married in Westminster with all her family but nobody from his.

Even on my grandmothers  and great grandmothers side there is a lot of mystery with a child that were "adopted" into the family but a lot of that doesn't add up. They don't appear in many family trees, Electoral Rolls on census so I am hoping the DNA test I have submitted will yield some results and provide me with some answers.


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Re: Thomas Robertson Brennan 1922
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 20 April 23 20:36 BST (UK) »
Dundee has kindly checked the electoral rolls for the address.

There is one other check you can do for addresses, the Valuation Rolls www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/guides/valuation-rolls

The 1920 Valuation Rolls shows:

Mrs Elizabeth BRENNAN
Tenant
HOUSE 14 STANLEY STREET KINNING PARK
GOVAN
1920
VR010201284-

Mrs Brennan is also there up to at least 1925. Can't see an entry for her on the next online Valuation Rolls for 1930.

The 1915 Valuation Rolls:

John BRENNEN
Tenant/Occupier
HOUSE NO 14 STANLEY STREET KINNING PARK
GOVAN
1915
VR010201090-

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Re: Thomas Robertson Brennan 1922
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 20 April 23 21:03 BST (UK) »
In 1921, Mrs Elizabeth Brennan, a widow, was living with her two daughters, Elizabeth and Cathie, at 14 Stanley Street, Pollokshields. The address was multi occupancy.

Their ages and other details:

Elizabeth, mother, 58, b. Glasgow
Elizabeth, daughter, 29, b. South Queensferry, Midlothian
Cathie, daughter, 23, b. Glasgow

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Re: Thomas Robertson Brennan 1922
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 20 April 23 21:22 BST (UK) »
There is this family in 1901:

John Brennan 35 furnace filler b. Ireland
Eliza Brennan 30 b. Ireland
Eliza Brennan 11
Patrick Brennan 9    
Mary Ann Brennan 5
Kate Brennan 3
Bridget Brennan 1
Francis Casey 24 boarder b. Ireland

Address 126 Long Row, Coatbridge, Old Monkland

Children are all showing as born in Coatbridge.

The family still show in Coatbridge on the 1911 census I think from the search screen.

Some differences from what we have from the 1921 census entry in respect of birth places  :-\ Needs more work this! Not sure if the family in Coatbridge connect really...

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Re: Thomas Robertson Brennan 1922
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 20 April 23 21:44 BST (UK) »
Monica, you are amazing. Thank you so much for this.

Please give me tips as to how you’re finding this information as I’m all the main websites but I’m clearly doing something wrong. Thank you so much  it’s so lovely I have names to work with so I can start to figure this all out.  🙂

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Re: Thomas Robertson Brennan 1922
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 20 April 23 22:03 BST (UK) »
The main site to work with for Scotland is the official one here www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk (often referred to as SP).

A number of key documents such as the 1911 & 1921 censuses, for example, are only available through SP. You can pay to view online original images from the registers for BMDs up to the cut offs (births 100 yrs/ marriages 75 years/ deaths 50 years). Costs are reasonable.

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Re: Thomas Robertson Brennan 1922
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 20 April 23 22:08 BST (UK) »
I don't think the Coatbridge family I posted about are the right family for Catherine. I think really you need to focus on that 1921 census entry in Glasgow with mother Elizabeth and daughters at 14 Stanley Street and try to work from there.

This looks to be the death of Elizabeth Snr:

ELIZABETH MCCREADIE or BRENNAN
69
Mother's maiden name MCGUIRE
1928
644 / 18 / 327
Pollokshields

Married women's deaths in Scotland are registered with both their maiden and married surnames.

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Re: Thomas Robertson Brennan 1922
« Reply #17 on: Friday 21 April 23 03:25 BST (UK) »
Yes sorry, I didn't realise that there was more than one Stanley Street/Road so the one I found is irrelevant.  The electoral rolls on Ancestry do not index addresses so I looked in the newspapers to find a mention of anyone who lived in Stanley Street at the time and then looked for them on the rolls.

Debra  :)