Mystery Marriage

[JustHelen]

Hello, Many years ago on the old IGI I found a marriage between John HULL and Rebecca READING about 1815-1817. I later discarded the information but have subsequently discovered that it was indeed the marriage I was after. Now I can not find it anywhere. John and Rebecca Hull lived in Gretton, Northamptonshire. I believe their first child was born in Cottingham, Northamptonshire, in 1817. John died of typhus in Gretton in 1843 aged 46 [this is in the parish register which also notes that he was the husband of Rebecca Hull]. I would be thrilled if anybody was able to help.

[jonwarrn]

Hi
I can't see that marriage. How do you know that Rebecca's maiden name was Reading?

Rebecca is born Cottingham, Northants, on the 1851, 1861 census.
Yes, the first child of John and Rebecca Hull seems to be son Edmund, baptized 9 Nov 1817, at Gretton. Abode Middleton.

Their last child seems to be daughter Matilda, baptized 24 Sep 1837, at Gretton.
There doesn't seem to be a birth registration for her. Perhaps she was born before 1 July 1837, or perhaps she wasn't registered.

There is this one
Sep 1837 Uppingham 15 486
Hull, Sophia       
Mother's maiden surname Bull

Could Matilda somehow have been registered as Sophia?
But John and Rebecca already had a daughter Sophia, who was baptized in Gretton in 1825. And apparently Sophia was alive and well in 1837!

It's just that there is a marriage at Thorpe Langton, Leicestershire (not too far away), 26 May 1817
John Hull + Rebecca Bull.
That's how their names are spelt on the register, they both marked.
Bachelor and spinster, both of the parish. By banns.

Seemingly no baptisms to that couple following in Leicestershire.
There were Bulls in Cottingham, but no baptism of a Rebecca

[trish1120]

I came to the same possible conclusion as jonw65

MATILDA Hull was bapt 24 Sep 1837 Gretton to John/Rebecca as noted by jonw65

[JustHelen]

Hello, thank you for those answers but sadly I'm no wiser. In reply to jonw65 I know John Hull's wife was Rebecca READING because it says so on their son's marriage registration in Australia. That's how I discovered that the marriage I found all those years ago was in fact the correct one.  John and Rebecca had 9 children as far as I know. Edmund was the first, chr 1817 in Cottingham. All the rest were christened in Gretton, including two daughters called Sophia and Matilda. I would love to hear from anyone who might be connected to this family.

[CaroleW]

Which son married in Australia - what was his birthyear?

1841 has 3 sons at home

Edward (as per image) 22
John 18
Mark 8

1851 - John appears to have married "Mary" but they are living with Rebecca & son Mark is also at home.  Can't find either a marriage or an 1851 entry for Edmund/Edward so am guessing he is the son referred to

[jonwarrn]

Sorry, you are right, Edmund was baptized at Cottingham in 1817. Abode Middleton.

Perhaps there are two surnames involved for Rebecca
Anyway, in Middleton, Cottingham, in 1841 there are
William Reddif 77 Ag Lab, Yes, born in county
Elizabeth Reddif 74 Yes

Are they anything to do with anything?
A burial at Cottingham in March 1842
Elizabeth Redding
Abode Middleton
Age 75

Struggling to find an entry for her in the GRO death indexes!

[jonwarrn]

Got it
March 1842 Kettering 15 218
Reding, Elizabeth
Age 75

ADDED
Is this the William who was with Elizabeth in Middleton in 1841?
Death, Dec 1843 Uppingham 15 458
Redden, William Woodcock

Burial at Gretton, 22 Dec 1843
William Woodcock Reddin(g)
Abode Gretton
Age 82

Not sure if that is a g on the end, or a small ink blot!

[CaroleW]

Rebecca Hull died 1877 aged 81 so born approx 1796

In 1861 she is living with son John & his wife Mary.  Also in household is daughter Rebecca aged 33 now married - surname Villette.  Marriage 1858 in London to Polette Villette

In 1871 she is living with widowed daughter Matilda Foster

[JustHelen]

Thank you again for your contributions.  I know the family of John and Rebecca. My interest is in finding out where they married, and where Rebecca came from.  She says she comes from Cottingham, but I haven't been able to locate her in the baptism registers for that parish, or anywhere else in Northamptonshire. The REDDIN couple in the Cottingham census sound interesting. It's no doubt possible that they may be Rebecca's parents.
Yes, I have thought that she may have been associated with two surnames, which would probably mean that if she married as Rebecca READING she might have been a widow, although very briefly. In which case, that adds another layer of difficulty to the problem of who she was!  I suspect that the HULL / READING marriage may not have taken place in Northamptonshire.