The mysterious Murphy's of Cork: link to Australia in the goldrush era

[annemareeinerko]

Wivenhoe, I have attached the record. I hope you can see it.

[sparrett]

Had you seen the inquest regarding poor little Ambrose WALSH?

https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/68C68A6A-F1B4-11E9-AE98-C1B7A354F7ED?image=1

Sue

[wivenhoe]

Attachment at reply #27   I see -

Baptism at 17 April 1848    at....where?...what church? Where are the WALSHs in Apr 1848?

Robert            James and Mary WALSH     9 Oct 1844       Ovens River
Franc*s  ***   James and Mary WALSH     12 Dec 1846          do   

I think the earlier dates would be birth dates?.

Other baptisms also have a location recorded, which would be birthplace?

Franc*s  would seem to have a second given name. Can others look please.

I think the 1846 birth might me Jerem***    (Jeremiah)

[sparrett]

It is Jeremiah.
If the children were recorded in birthdate order on their father's DC, it will be noted that Robert and Jeremiah were consecutive births, so the dates would work.
Sue

[annemareeinerko]

Thanks, Sue

Wow, the inquest into the death of little Ambrose was sobering reading 

Each time I read any of the inquests involving this family, they try to do the right thing but are dirt poor. From what I could understand of the handwriting, Robert had a lot of regrets about his brother dying, it seemed like Ambrose was malnourished. Robert even took in that other youngster that cold night, the one he found next to a tree, whose father had turfed him out, who later disappeared. Poor Robert died of diabetes.


Here is the birth certificate for James Walsh, it lists the children and their ages, who is dead, and who is still alive.

Thus far, the earliest evidence I have for Mary Murphy in Australia is James Walsh born in 1843 in Ovens, Victoria.

[Neale1961]

Thus far, the earliest evidence I have for Mary Murphy in Australia is James Walsh born in 1843 in Ovens, Victoria.

I think you can count Alice's death certificate as evidence that James and Mary were in Bathurst in 1841/1842, as it suggests Alice was born there.

Regarding a marriage for James and Mary in Bathurst - have you contacted the local historical society to ask if they have any church marriage records for that time? As it was before registration, a church record may exist.

[annemareeinerko]

Thanks, Neale. Good idea. I will try that avenue.

[sparrett]

Poor Robert died of diabetes.

When I read the inquest into the death of Alice WALSH aged 24, I rather thought her symptoms suggested diabetes too, the terrible thirst and decline into unconsciousness.

As Neale mentions, I had posted her Victoria death indexing  in my reply  #16, but I should have highlighted the word Bath (abbreviation for Bathurst) so you would note it.
I would agree that it was after her birth that they moved to Ovens River area.

I do feel for the family at Bet Bet and that poor little Ambrose who seemed to have pneumonia out in the cold  and almost alone on that night. Only 12.

Sue

[Neale1961]

Sue, I had the same thought about Alice and diabetes.

Reading about Ambrose's death gives an interesting insight into how tough life was for many children at that time in our history - 12 yrs old & sent off to work (and live) like tough labouring men.