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Re: Grandchild Not Sure of Parent
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 06 April 23 10:18 BST (UK) »
maddys52,
Thank you for your reply.
There a no other siblings of the two shown in the census. As best i can tell the child (Ida Smart) ened up marrying an Eric Martin in 1935 in Staffordshire. I can't find a proper marriage certificate to verify her father.

A marriage certificate is not going to provide that information in a manner you can trust.

My Great Grandmother had her Grandfather listed as he Father on hers.

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Re: Grandchild Not Sure of Parent
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 06 April 23 10:18 BST (UK) »
maddys52,
Thank you for your reply.
There a no other siblings of the two shown in the census. As best i can tell the child (Ida Smart) ened up marrying an Eric Martin in 1935 in Staffordshire. I can't find a proper marriage certificate to verify her father.

A marriage certificate is not going to provide that information in a manner you can trust.

My Great Grandmother had her Grandfather listed as her Father on hers.

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Re: Grandchild Not Sure of Parent
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 06 April 23 12:59 BST (UK) »
Name:   Ida H Smart
Registration Date:   1915
Quarter of the Year:   Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Place:   Wolstanton, Staffordshire, England
Parishes for this Registration District:   View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Mother:   Smart
Volume:   6b
Page:   152
Kidney,Kitney Detling Stockbury Chatham. Wenham Biddenden. Waltham.  Pemble Birchington/St Peters. Sibun Medway Chatham/Gravesend

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Re: Grandchild Not Sure of Parent
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 06 April 23 13:17 BST (UK) »
maddys52,
Thank you for your reply.
There a no other siblings of the two shown in the census. As best i can tell the child (Ida Smart) ened up marrying an Eric Martin in 1935 in Staffordshire. I can't find a proper marriage certificate to verify her father.

There is a likely Eric and Ida couple on 1939 register in Sussex - based on her date of birth range (from birth reg quarter) and a likely Eric Martin in 1921 living in the same area as Ida.
So that 1935 marriage looks very likely.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: Grandchild Not Sure of Parent
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 06 April 23 16:45 BST (UK) »
Have you ruled out Lilian b 1898 as the possible mother .

I agree that the middle name HALL. Could be indicative of a. Birth father if it's not a family surname from grandparents.

There might be an affiliation order in county records giving father's name but you would have to pay for it .
Or a baptism might give a clue .



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Re: Grandchild Not Sure of Parent
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 06 April 23 18:18 BST (UK) »
Plenty to consider here with all the records from the people above, again many thanks.
Great support as always from the RootsChat community.
I am leaning towards entering Ida as the daughter of Martha Ellen with a comment father possibly a Hall. I do think she is the Ida who married Eric Smart as shown in the 1939 registry.

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Re: Grandchild Not Sure of Parent
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 06 April 23 18:39 BST (UK) »
Yes, also add Lilian born 1898 as a possible mother, she may have had Ida at 17. Either Martha Ellen or Lillian. The only way to be sure would as said, buy the birth cert or find a baptism.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
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Re: Grandchild Not Sure of Parent
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 06 April 23 19:23 BST (UK) »
I think the best suggestion is to
add an extra sister to Martha and Lillian with first name " one of the sisters" as Ida's mother you can merge the mother to correct when you get the birth certificate or baptism with correct name

It will save confusing cousins with half siblings .
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Re: Grandchild Not Sure of Parent
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 06 April 23 19:51 BST (UK) »
Cheers brigidmac, will do.