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John Sutton Moore
« on: Tuesday 04 April 23 09:16 BST (UK) »
According to the 1851 census John Sutton Moore was a schoolmaster at Bacter County Gaol. Can someone tell me is this the main prison in Bierton road in Aylesbury. I am unable to find in with Google. I have tried to email the prison but with no reply. I would really like to find out what he actually did there. Many thanks in advance.

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Re: John Sutton Moore
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 April 23 09:45 BST (UK) »
Looking at the image I read it as "Bucks County Gaol".


The county archives might be able to help: 

https://www.buckinghamshire.gov.uk/culture-and-tourism/archives/archives-landing-page/
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: John Sutton Moore
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 April 23 17:03 BST (UK) »
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Re: John Sutton Moore
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 April 23 03:50 BST (UK) »
Of possible interest - a few newspaper reports which mention John Sutton MOORE:

Approval of his continuing employment as Prison Schoolmaster, salary of "£60, per annum, without rations"
Saturday,  July 3, 1847
Publication: Bucks Herald

Report on his suspension and dismissal from the job for being absent without leave (an extra day spent attending his daughter's wedding)
Saturday,  Apr. 10, 1852
Publication: Jackson's Oxford Journal

Inquest into his death aged 57 (assuming this is the same man) after being run over by a hansom cab
Sunday,  Oct. 21, 1866
Publication: Lloyd's Illustrated Newspaper

Happy to send you copies if you haven't seen them.

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Re: John Sutton Moore
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 April 23 03:56 BST (UK) »
An advertisement for his position may help to describe some of  what he did in the prison:

"The person selected must be a Married Man, a Member of the Established Church, and be able to teach Church Psalmody to the Prisoners ..."
Saturday,  Apr. 24, 1852
Publication: Jackson's Oxford Journal

(a similar advertisement was printed in 1853, but said a married man "preferred".
Saturday,  Mar. 26, 1853
Publication: Bucks Herald )

And a mention of the Prison Schoolmaster in this Open University course (which includes the Bucks County Prison ad.  :) )
https://www.open.edu/openlearn/mod/oucontent/view.php?id=106395&section=4

Also of possible interest:
"Throughout the history of incarceration, the prison schoolmaster has had a hard time. Established under Robert Peel’s Parliamentary Gaol Act of 1823, education came under direct control of the prison chaplain for nearly a century. Religion and morality were about the only subjects on the penal curriculum in Victorian England; it was not uncommon for inmates to have learned by heart the whole of the Old and New Testaments. "
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/educatingpeter

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Re: John Sutton Moore
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 05 April 23 11:23 BST (UK) »
Hello, Thank you so much for all your kind help. Really appreciated. I will have to go to the archives and read the papers. John was my 3rd great grandfather. So happy now, thank you again.

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Re: John Sutton Moore
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 April 23 08:32 BST (UK) »
Maddy - yes it was him who died in 1866 in Kensington. You kindly said you could send a copy. how do I get it ?. How do I pay you for it ?.
So many thanks - Shogmoor

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Re: John Sutton Moore
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 April 23 02:08 BST (UK) »
I'll send you a personal message with my email to send you a copy of the inquest report in the paper. Absolutely my pleasure - no need for payment!  ;D ;D

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Re: John Sutton Moore
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 April 23 07:44 BST (UK) »
So kind of you. Thank you so much.
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