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Some names and place names in 1583 will
« on: Wednesday 29 March 23 17:15 BST (UK) »
Hello roots members,

Just when I thought I'd transcribed all wills and Chancery court cases  for a report for my local history group, I came across William Bainbrigge aka Bianbridge who was a Derby merchant, Bailiff and MP.
In his will said by National Archives to be proved 30 October, 1583
The date will was made is one of my queries and a link to Parliament information about MP's in 16th Century mentions his will was made 22nd April, 1583.
So my first question is was the year will made 1583 correct as it looked more like 23rd April, 1583 to me?
I attached a clip and date made shows just after "In the name of God Amen"
My second query is the place name of some mills mentioned and I attached a clip of what looks like "fibre walk mills"?
I have some other names of people I would like opinions about as to what those names are. I will post snips of some of these in this thread later.
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Re: Some names and place names in 1558 will
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 March 23 17:28 BST (UK) »
The date looks like 22 April 1583 to me.

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Re: Some names and place names in 1558 will
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 March 23 17:44 BST (UK) »
and twoe walke mylles?

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Re: Some names and place names in 1583 will
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 March 23 18:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks for replies Watson.
Perhaps its two water mills.
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Re: Some names and place names in 1583 will
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 March 23 19:12 BST (UK) »
Here is part of page 2 of 3 pages and on my hard copy I numbered lines at top of page 2 as Line 43. Further down in bold letters the word ITEM is line 61.
My name queries are:

Line 45 - William Pawlett?

Line 57  - Nicholas Burgeith?

Line 59 - viz Nester?

Lines 63 & 65 is word personage or parsonage (minister's house)?

A few more to follow later.

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Re: Some names and place names in 1558 will
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 March 23 19:44 BST (UK) »
Thanks for replies Watson.
Perhaps its two water mills.

No, there are four water mills on the line above. These two are walk mills, also known as fulling mills:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulling

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Re: Some names and place names in 1583 will
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 March 23 20:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks Arthurk, the link explains a few variations of spelling walk.
I was hoping for a clue as to the location of the mills but it only mentions in Derby.
BTW there was a "Rope Walk" and 4 water mills; 2 corn mills and 2 fulling mills in my village just one mile from Derby. Based on the link you sent, it would be a rope mill with open sides or a long open outdoor area where hemp fibre was hand twisted to make rope.
Later about 1752, one corn mill was converted to a flint grinding mill for pottery and there was said to be a red-lead mill also later on. George and Charles Bage built a large paper mill here c.1708 and it burned down about 1930.
Darley Abbey is well known for the cotton spinning mills built by Thomas Evans in 1782 although he had to rebuild 6 years later as the first one burned down.

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Re: Some names and place names in 1583 will
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 29 March 23 20:14 BST (UK) »
Another couple of names queries (See this attachment):

2nd Line - Henry Morely?

3rd Line - Christopher (?) Bradshaw

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Re: Some names and place names in 1558 will
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 29 March 23 21:20 BST (UK) »

From your reply #4
45 – William Pawlett

57 – Nicholas Englishe

59 – Ric(hard) ffletcher

67 & 69 – written personage but means ‘parsonage’

From your reply #7
2 – Henry Werdey

3 – Sentlowe Bradshawe