John Armstrong 1861 census look up needed please

[Burto]

Hi,
Just wondering if anyone can find my ancestors in the 1861 census please as I'm struggling. This is the family in 1851
Name:   John Armstrong
Age:   53
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1798
Relation:   Head
Spouse's Name:   Catherine Armstrong
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Ireland
Civil Parish:   Harborne
Ecclesiastical parish:   St Peter
County/Island:   Staffordshire
Country:   England
Registration District:   Kings Norton
Sub-registration District:   Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel:   2c
Neighbors:   View others on page
Household Schedule Number:   122
Piece:   2050
Folio:   149
Page Number:   31
Household Members:   
Name   Age
John Armstrong   53
Catherine Armstrong   45
William Armstrong   10
Mary Ann Armstrong   8

John Armstrong was born 1798 in Balla, Mayo. His daughter, my ancestor, Mary Ann married Henry Wright in Dec 1861

[mckha489]

What were all the details on the marriage certificate?
Witnesses.
Mary Ann’s residence.

[Pennines]

There is a burial in Birmingham in Feb 1859 for a John Armstrong of the correct approx age.

Daughter Mary Ann just MAY have been working as a servant, shown as just Mary, in Aston in 1861, but as mckha has said - her abode at the time of marriage may help.

[Burto]

What were all the details on the marriage certificate?
Witnesses.
Mary Ann’s residence.

John's death certificate states that he was living at Court Carendon ? Street in the Ladywood District of Birmingham when he died in 1859

[ShaunJ]

John Armstrong was an army pensioner per the 1851 census; there are army records for a John Armstrong born circa 1798 in Ball, Mayo, in 51st Foot, discharged to pension in 1837.

Pension records show that he died on 17 February 1861. 

[Burto]

John's wife Catherine died in 1878 in the Aston Union Workhouse

[Burto]

John Armstrong was an army pensioner per the 1851 census; there are army records for a John Armstrong born circa 1798 in Bale, Mayo, in 51st Foot, discharged to pension in 1837.

Pension records show that he died on 17 February 1861.

Yep that's him! I can't find the rest of the family in 1861...

[mckha489]

So is the 1859 death not him?
If not, where did he die?

[Burto]

So is the 1859 death not him?
If not, where did he die?

Yes he died 17th Feb 1859 at 12 Court Carendon? Street in Ladywood so he wouldn't be on the census but his family should be and I can't find them