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Re: WHAT IS THE POINT? by "Fed Up"
« Reply #45 on: Saturday 08 April 23 17:50 BST (UK) »
True, but that can also be said for other sites.

Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
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Re: WHAT IS THE POINT? by "Fed Up"
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 08 April 23 18:00 BST (UK) »
No doubt. But someone can alter my tree on Anc*stry only if I invite them to. (Apart from adding comments, which I too have done on a tree that got my family egregiously wrong, and whose owner ignored my messages.)

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Re: WHAT IS THE POINT? by "Fed Up"
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 08 April 23 18:21 BST (UK) »
I once had a researcher for me who I paid to look up anyone with a certain first name and surname in Westminster/Holborn but all I got was any instance of the (relatively common surname) surname in the parishes instead of what I asked for, anyone with a certain forename, George. She charged me for it, so I paid her and never used her again.

Better to be a muggins I say.

Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: WHAT IS THE POINT? by "Fed Up"
« Reply #48 on: Saturday 08 April 23 22:39 BST (UK) »
I once had a researcher for me who I paid to look up anyone with a certain first name and surname in Westminster/Holborn but all I got was any instance of the (relatively common surname) surname in the parishes instead of what I asked for, anyone with a certain forename, George. She charged me for it, so I paid her and never used her again.

Better to be a muggins I say.

Horrendous.   :-X  BUT there is always someone who spoils it for everyone else!
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY


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Re: WHAT IS THE POINT? by "Fed Up"
« Reply #49 on: Sunday 09 April 23 08:38 BST (UK) »
This business of disputed trees and origins etc., is nothing new, after Thomas Cockburn Hood published his book in 1888.

Search Hood in Cockburn's book below referring to the above 1888 book, see ...

The Records of the Cockburn Family by Sir Robert Cockburn Bart and Harry A. Cockburn
https://archive.org/details/recordsofcockbur00cock/page/n13/mode/1up?q=Hood

Not related to Cockburn-Hood, as far as I know.

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Re: WHAT IS THE POINT? by "Fed Up"
« Reply #50 on: Sunday 09 April 23 13:34 BST (UK) »
I have got the occasional comment on my Ancestry tree saying the age at burial is slightly out to the baptism. Well I cannot help what the records say, and ages back then were not fixed like today. Many did not know their exact age.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: WHAT IS THE POINT? by "Fed Up"
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 11 April 23 10:37 BST (UK) »
My 5x great-grandfather William Smith, who lived in Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, lived just long enough to appear on the 1851 census where it was revealed that he was born in Leckhampstead, Buckinghamshire; 60 miles away.

Had he died prior to the census I would never have guessed he was born there. It would have been a complete brick wall. As it stands, I have been able to trace his family back a further two generations in Leckhampstead.


Thankfully, I was able to find my 3x great grandfather in the 1851, not long before he died.  Surprised to find out he was born in Bridlington, E. Yorkshire, quite a distance away from Halifax, W. Yorkshire where he spent his adult life.  I don’t know if I would have ever proved the connection otherwise, as his name, William Ford, is not uncommon.
Looking at a couple of Ford trees online, I see one has my grandfather serving in the British Army and dying in Liverpool.  He never served in the army and died in Canada.

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Re: WHAT IS THE POINT? by "Fed Up"
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 18 April 23 18:03 BST (UK) »
My 5x great-grandfather William Smith, who lived in Whittlesey, Cambridgeshire, lived just long enough to appear on the 1851 census where it was revealed that he was born in Leckhampstead, Buckinghamshire; 60 miles away.

Had he died prior to the census I would never have guessed he was born there. It would have been a complete brick wall. As it stands, I have been able to trace his family back a further two generations in Leckhampstead.


Thankfully, I was able to find my 3x great grandfather in the 1851, not long before he died.  Surprised to find out he was born in Bridlington, E. Yorkshire, quite a distance away from Halifax, W. Yorkshire where he spent his adult life.  I don’t know if I would have ever proved the connection otherwise, as his name, William Ford, is not uncommon.
Looking at a couple of Ford trees online, I see one has my grandfather serving in the British Army and dying in Liverpool.  He never served in the army and died in Canada.

I was shocked to find my great great gran was born in Sussex and not London where she lived from babyhood. Her mum and dad moved to London when she was a baby and she was baptised in North London and always said she was born in that part of London.

I quite like that though, someone who grew up from babyhood in a different area of the country to where she was born. Although her Kent born father's mother was from Southwark.

Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: WHAT IS THE POINT? by "Fed Up"
« Reply #53 on: Friday 23 June 23 21:36 BST (UK) »

Sorry, I do understand you are hurt and upset, but I can't agree that information is your property.  You have simply gathered the facts that are already out there.  Unless you write a book, such as a historian would, then your interpretation of those facts can be copyright.  That said, I do know that you are entitled to be upset but I think for reasons other than merely sharing what you found.  People certainly don't have the right to demand the results of your research but on the other hand, if no one ever shared anything, humankind would not have advanced as far as it has   :)