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Swinton Industrial school Census 1921
« on: Saturday 11 March 23 10:37 GMT (UK) »
Good morning all,

I wonder if anyone has access to be able to look up the admissions registers for Swinton Industrial school for me please?

My father in law and three brothers were missing from the 1921 census at home with their mother and have trawled the returns to find them with no luck. But a dear friend yesterday looks like she may have found the boys at Swinton Industrial School  _
Eliza* Brown  is listed as female. BUT and a big but is that he was also baptised as Eliza in 1913 when he was was born, (7y 8m)
Richard Brown born  29 January 1912 my FIL (10y 5m)
Albert Brown MAR q 1909  (11 y 8m)
and finally James Brown born in 1916 who was not at the institution

Their father sadly died in 1917 of pneumonia after having been rejected by the army due to epilepsy brought on by a works accident 4 years previously.

Their mother remarried in 1918 to Bertram READ but he is  also not at home in 1921 but visiting someone in Nottingham.   
Alice is at  18 Whyatt Street Bradford Manchester. She is a charwoman at the Grey Mare Hotel and listed as married.

The family story (farfetched by any stretch of the imagination) was that the boys ran away from home and became boy soldiers.  One boy stayed in the USA and never married. That part is true because hiss effects were sent to my FIL when he died in the 1960s.

If anybody has access to the admission records to the school and could look to see if the mother of these boys was listed as either Alice Brown or Alice Read and the address of Whyatt Street Bradford. I would be so grateful
kind regards
Anonemouse

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Re: Swinton Industrial school Census 1921
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 March 23 19:23 GMT (UK) »
According to this page from Manchester Archives website it gives the impression that a log book for boys at Swinton Industrial School between 1919 and 1927 - is held at that Archives.

https://www.manchester.gov.uk/directory_record/212464/swinton_industrial_schools/category/1370/industrial_school

Hence you could contact them, although there will possibly be a fee for any search.

If you tab down that page there is also a suggestion that Lancashire Archives holds School Admission and Discharge books - unless I am misunderstanding.

Just have a look at the link and read down that page to see what you think.

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Re: Swinton Industrial school Census 1921
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 14 March 23 15:27 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your help I will certainly look into that

kind regards
Anonemouse

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Re: Swinton Industrial school Census 1921
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 April 23 09:00 BST (UK) »
They have a large collection of records at Lancashire Records in Preston...probably 20/30 rolls, if you can get there. You don't need to book to view them and the staff there are very helpful.

I found the ones I wanted quite easily.
Jones:Middleton, Howarth:Manchester, Dean:Ardwick/Manchester, Harvey:Nth Manchester & Elland/West Yorks,  Tattersall:Manchester/Salford/Burnley,  
 Lees:Prestwich/Manchester, Wild : Manchester/Salford,
Davies/Williams :Ruabon/Wrexham
Peace: Burton on Trent


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Re: Swinton Industrial school Census 1921
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 April 23 10:17 BST (UK) »
Eliza* Brown  is listed as female. BUT and a big but is that he was also baptised as Eliza in 1913 when he was was born, (7y 8m)

Birth, Dec 1913 Prestwich 8d 765
Brown, Elijah   
Mother's maiden surname Whalley

Not the greatest handwriting on that baptism record at St. Aidan, 15 October 1913.
Elijah or Elizah :-\

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Re: Swinton Industrial school Census 1921
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 April 23 11:48 BST (UK) »
I would go for Elijah on the St Aidan Baptism. I can't say I've come across Eliza spelt with an "H" at the end.

Jones:Middleton, Howarth:Manchester, Dean:Ardwick/Manchester, Harvey:Nth Manchester & Elland/West Yorks,  Tattersall:Manchester/Salford/Burnley,  
 Lees:Prestwich/Manchester, Wild : Manchester/Salford,
Davies/Williams :Ruabon/Wrexham
Peace: Burton on Trent

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Re: Swinton Industrial school Census 1921
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 April 23 13:30 BST (UK) »
Looking at the image available on Ancestry then I would go for Elijah.   There are two instances of Elizabeth on the same page, plus Eliza on the following page.  Unfortunately no instance of "j" in the Rector's hand-writing to make a comparison.
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