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Help needed with abbreviation in burial records
« on: Tuesday 21 February 23 17:32 GMT (UK) »
I am working on the burial register of All Saints church in Newcastle upon Tyne. In the 1620s I have found a number of entries which have the letters 'nob' between the occupation or marital state and the word 'buried'. I attach an example:

'Phillis Stevenson spinster nob'

Can anyone help to explain what these letters stand for?

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Re: Help needed with abbreviation in burial records
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 February 23 17:53 GMT (UK) »
My best guess is "natum, obiit" ... Latin for "born, died" ... i.e. this is an infant burial.

But that's all it is ... a guess.
All identified names up to and including my great x5 grandparents: Abbot Andrews Baker Blenc(h)ow Brothers Burrows Chambers Clifton Cornwell Escott Fisher Foster Frost Giddins Groom Hardwick Harris Hart Hayho(e) Herman Holcomb(e) Holmes Hurley King-Spooner Martindale Mason Mitchell Murphy Neves Oakey Packman Palmer Peabody Pearce Pettit(t) Piper Pottenger Pound Purkis Rackliff(e) Richardson Scotford Sherman Sinden Snear Southam Spooner Stephenson Varing Weatherley Webb Whitney Wiles Wright

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Re: Help needed with abbreviation in burial records
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 February 23 17:54 GMT (UK) »
And not a very good guess at that, given that she is also described as "spinster". RTFQ!!!  :D
All identified names up to and including my great x5 grandparents: Abbot Andrews Baker Blenc(h)ow Brothers Burrows Chambers Clifton Cornwell Escott Fisher Foster Frost Giddins Groom Hardwick Harris Hart Hayho(e) Herman Holcomb(e) Holmes Hurley King-Spooner Martindale Mason Mitchell Murphy Neves Oakey Packman Palmer Peabody Pearce Pettit(t) Piper Pottenger Pound Purkis Rackliff(e) Richardson Scotford Sherman Sinden Snear Southam Spooner Stephenson Varing Weatherley Webb Whitney Wiles Wright

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Re: Help needed with abbreviation in burial records
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 February 23 18:12 GMT (UK) »
I find it for burials of all ages and sexes.

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Re: Help needed with abbreviation in burial records
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 February 23 18:17 GMT (UK) »
Could it be "nob" for "nobilis"?  Were the people gentry?  Again, this is just a guess, I'm afraid.

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Re: Help needed with abbreviation in burial records
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 February 23 18:23 GMT (UK) »
No, in fact they all seem pretty ordinary, labourers, shovel men, keelmen, mariners, etc.

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Re: Help needed with abbreviation in burial records
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 February 23 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Just guessing but might that letter be a C and not a B?  Might it be (de)no (mination) Catholic?  I don't know but I wonder if it might be referencing that the person buried was Catholic not C of E which that Church was. 

Or could it be No Charge!  LoL!
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Re: Help needed with abbreviation in burial records
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 February 23 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Another guess, were they non conformists?
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR
 & N. YKS,
Crawhall & Ions Weardale
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Bareš, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Straka & others from Czechia
Endesfelder from Saxony
Ripke from Poland

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Re: Help needed with abbreviation in burial records
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 February 23 18:57 GMT (UK) »
How about "noc[turnal interment]" ... sadly necessary if they are from a family of vampires  ;D
All identified names up to and including my great x5 grandparents: Abbot Andrews Baker Blenc(h)ow Brothers Burrows Chambers Clifton Cornwell Escott Fisher Foster Frost Giddins Groom Hardwick Harris Hart Hayho(e) Herman Holcomb(e) Holmes Hurley King-Spooner Martindale Mason Mitchell Murphy Neves Oakey Packman Palmer Peabody Pearce Pettit(t) Piper Pottenger Pound Purkis Rackliff(e) Richardson Scotford Sherman Sinden Snear Southam Spooner Stephenson Varing Weatherley Webb Whitney Wiles Wright
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