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Re: No idea where to go from here!!!
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 09:21 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Kaye.... I was hoping Grandpa Henry Williams had a prior family, giving more to work with.

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Re: No idea where to go from here!!!
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 09:50 GMT (UK) »
This took a bit of a sad twist... not that helps the OP in any way...

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/10778406/william-welton

In the Soldier's List of Effects, it names him as Unwin, Albert alias Welton, William.  The sole legatee to claim his things was Frederick Z. Welton, brother.

Frederick Zachariah Welton was in an orphanage in 1901 age 11, and listed under him, Allan K Welton, age 13, both born in Chester, but the orphanage was in Erdington, Warwickshire; Sir Josiah Masons Orphanage.


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Re: No idea where to go from here!!!
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 10:00 GMT (UK) »
If I am looking at the correct censuses, Henry and Rebecca are living at 47 Princess Street, Chester.

Note the cover address on the 1911 census form sent to them: it is being sent to Mr. H. Williams Jr.   As he said his father was a Thomas, it is possible Henry is actually a Thomas Henry, and didn't use his real first name.  Perhaps look for a death/burial under Thomas Henry Williams.


The cover for Mr H Williams jnr is the house next door not Henry and Rebecca’s house.
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Re: No idea where to go from here!!!
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 10:19 GMT (UK) »
The cover for Mr H Williams jnr is the house next door not Henry and Rebecca’s house.

Fixed, and thanks for catching that, Heywood.


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Re: No idea where to go from here!!!
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 10:39 GMT (UK) »
I thought initially, perhaps he was being classed as ‘the owner’ but then further reading revealed all.  ;)
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Re: No idea where to go from here!!!
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Again does not help with original query but building a picture.

William (WILSON) in 1901 census is William Welton in 1911 census.

WELTON, WILLIAM  EDMUND     mmn TAYLOR 
GRO Reference: 1894  M Quarter in CHESTER  Volume 08A  Page 446

Believe him to be the son of Allan Keeble Welton (1870-1895) and Maria Taylor. They had 2 other sons Allan K in 1887 and Frederick Z in 1889.

Maria Welton nee' Taylor I believe to be the illegitimate daughter of Rebecca Williams/Davies nee'Taylor

TAYLOR, MARIA       -  no mmn
GRO Reference: 1870  J Quarter in CHESTER  Volume 08A  Page 397

Rebecca and Maria appear at the home of her parents Thomas and Catherine in 1871 census
ref
Piece:   3731
Folio:   47
Page number:   28

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Re: No idea where to go from here!!!
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 13:23 GMT (UK) »
1906 Cheshire directory has
Hy. Williams, registered lodging house at 45 & 47 Princess Street (Chester streets)

1914
Hy. Williams, registered lodging house at 45 Princess Street (Chester streets)
Henry Williams, reg. lodging house, 47 Princess Street (Chester commercial)

1918, Spring 1919 electorals
Henry + Isabel Williams at 45 Princess Street (that will be junior and his wife)
John Williams at 47 Princess Street

Rebecca Williams nearby at 43 Linenhall Street on those same registers (qualification "O")
Is that her?

Rebecca Williams buried 17 April 1919 on Deceased Online
Rebecca Williams on Find a Grave, at Overleigh Cemetery
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/247444195/rebecca-williams

Ancestry tree says she died at the Royal Infirmary, Chester, cause strangulated umbilical hernia and post-operative shock.

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Re: No idea where to go from here!!!
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 15:27 GMT (UK) »
Info only re Rebecca.

Born 13.11.1850

BIDWARDS, REBECCA       BIDWARDS 
GRO Reference: 1850  D Quarter in GREAT BOUGHTON  Volume 19  Page 52

Marriage of parents 31.12.1850 after her birth.

Marriages Dec 1850   
Keigin    Catherine        G Boughton    19   60   
Taylor    Thomas        G Boughton    19   60   

Birth of siblings as per 1861 census

TAYLOR, THOMAS       KEGGIN 
GRO Reference: 1853  S Quarter in GREAT BOUGHTON  Volume 08A  Page 326

TAYLOR, JAMES       BEDWARD 
GRO Reference: 1855  J Quarter in GREAT BOUGHTON  Volume 08A  Page 376

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Re: No idea where to go from here!!!
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 23 February 23 18:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi peeps, sorry I've not already responded. Thank you ever so much for all the responses, I'm really grateful! Yes, you are right, they are from Chester, I'm surprised you were able to find them so very easily but I suppose they stand out.

I was going to mention about Henry Williams Junior but that's already been pointed out and also William Welton, but again people have already done lots of research on him too. I'm honestly speechless at how much you've been able to find out with not that much to go on. How on earth do you find it all?!
I did know who his parents were and that he had two brothers but I did not know he'd died in the war, how very sad, and that his brothers were in an orphanage in Warwickshire. Going to go and add that to my family tree.

Thank you very much!!