EGGINS FAMILY - Grafton NSW area

[Ed1946]

Can anyone help to identify the people in this photograph?
It's the Eggins Family from the Alumny Creek area.
I have no idea when the photo was taken; clearly it is not recent.
Alumny Creek was a farming community near Grafton, NSW. It still is a rural area with farming but not as intensive as in the past i.e. around the time this photo was taken.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Regards, Ed

[Neale1961]

The following Eggins family lived in Alumny Creek, Grafton
Frederick Clarence Eggins (1869-1913) and wife Evalina Maud (1871-1955)
Children:
Evelyn born 1897
Iris born 1899
Thomas born 1901
Lionel born 1902
Myrtle born 1904
Lyle born 1909
Gregory born 1910
Frederick born 1911

If you post the photo on the dating board, someone will help.

Do you think the man in your photo looks like this F C Eggins?

[maddys52]

There is also the family of James EGGINS at Alumny Creek

James and Mary Ann had the following children:
1869  Elisha
1870  Ernest Edgar
1872  Francis B
1873  James Arthur
1875  Walter
1876  George
1877  Ida
1878  Lily H J
1880  Emily May
1881  Mary Ann

I'm not very good at dating photographs, Neale's suggestion of putting on the dating board is a good idea. The young girl looks around 12 years old to me.

[Neale1961]

The young girl looks around 12 years old to me.

I think she looks a little more mature - perhaps closer to 15 years.

[maddys52]

Also a Herbert and Jane Ann EGGINS at Alumny Creek - their children:

1865  Albert E
1867  Christian E
1870  Augustus W E
1872  Rebecca A
1875  Rachel Ethel  (died 1889 - https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/62108565)
1879  Robert Leslie
1884  George H

The young girl looks around 12 years old to me.

I think she looks a little more mature - perhaps closer to 15 years.

You could be right. 

[Wiggy]

My guess at the date is Edwardian - possibly towards the end of the 1900s is my best guess.   I have photos of my family looking very similar to this.

The hair style, the high neckline on the woman's dress, the girls hairstyle and clothes:
 High wide collar on the man's shirt and the three piece suit with fob chain (just visible I think)

Wiggy.

[Ed1946]

Hard to say if "Neale's" Frederick is the person in ‘my’ photo. There were so many Eggins family groups living in the Alumny Creek area – and all large groups.
It seems odd that the portrait only includes one child – all the groups had large families.
I think that the only chance I have of identifying the subjects is to find someone with the same photo or photos of one of the people at the same age.
Many thanks everyone for your help.
Regards, Ed

[Wiggy]

I suspect the girl isn't much older than 12-13.  Her dress is still quite short and her hair still 'down'.
 

Wiggy

[sparrett]

Hi Ed1946
I only have"impressions" to offer. My thoughts.
The girl is 13 to 15 years.
Her dress is not new, a hand-me down possibly from a sister. It ooks a little jaded.
She wears a single piece of simple jewelley, a bar pin at her neck which may be a pearl.
She possibly has a mole or prominent freckle on her left chin.

(If you have other Eggin pictures, both pin and freckle might identify her at a later age. Do you have any?)

The father somehow does not look like a farming man. His suit is well-tailored and he wears it comfortably. I think too (per wiggy) I see a glint of a gold fob watch inside his jacket.

The woman is into her forties and father is a little older than her.

Somewhat oddly, both women conceal the top joint of their right thumb. This probably is pure coincidence.

I think the era is early Edwardian. Between 1900 and 1905.

Only random thinkings.

Sue