Author Topic: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995  (Read 5744 times)

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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 04 February 23 18:01 GMT (UK) »
That could link to the one I added above:
Cyril Francis . mmn James . Oct-Dec 1915 . Bridgend . 11a . 1579

He appears on 1921 with following
John W   Francis 1873   
Elizabeth   1873   Tredegar, Monmouthshire
Bronwen   1901   Blaengarw, Glamorganshire (mmn James - GRO indexes)
Ethel           1902 Blaengarw, Glamorganshire (mmn James)
Emlyn   1904 Blaengarw, Glamorganshire (mmn James)
Thomas John 1906 Glamorganshire (mmn James)
Byron   1911   Blaengarw, Glamorganshire (mmn James)
Prydivedd   1913   Blaengarw, Glamorganshire (mmn James)
Cyril 1915 Blaengarw, Glamorganshire

Added - possible marriage entry FreeBMD

Jun 1898   Bridgend    11a   982   
Francis    John
other names on same page          
James    Elizabeth            
JOHN    Thomas          
Williams    Julia       
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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 04 February 23 18:09 GMT (UK) »
Need to take this back to what I "know".  My mother's marriage record (not cert.) shows a Cyril E. Francis.   Does this mean the death I have for him may not be correct (middle name Benjamin), unless this is a transcription error between  handwritten the letters of  E and B  ????
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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 04 February 23 18:16 GMT (UK) »
From the evidence found, unless he was b.1914 in Plymouth, Cyril did not have a middle name. At present, there is nothing linking to that Cycil E Francis. Maybe he made-up a middle name. It happened in my family. I seem to have found Cyril Benjamin born in Pontypridd in 1916.

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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 04 February 23 18:21 GMT (UK) »
As has been pointed out already I need the actual marriage and birth certs for Cyril.  If no middle name appears then that will narrow down the possibilities of the death and as to whether or not he is the birth father of MJF

Thanks for everyone's input

Richard
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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 04 February 23 18:25 GMT (UK) »
I cannot find Cyril B Francis on the 1939 Register, so he could have enlisted before 1941.

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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 04 February 23 18:36 GMT (UK) »
I seem to have found Cyril Benjamin born in Pontypridd in 1916.
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 I posted details of birth reg for a Cyril Benjamin Francis 1916 mmn Richards and possible parents see reply 6


As has been pointed out already I need the actual marriage and birth certs for Cyril.  If no middle name appears then that will narrow down the possibilities of the death and as to whether or not he is the birth father of MJF

Thanks for everyone's input

If you purchase the 1941 marriage certificate please come back and let us know his middle name and who is named as his father :)
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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 04 February 23 18:41 GMT (UK) »
I would expect Cyril to be listed on the Bridgend WW2 memorial but he is not there. The information says 90 were killed with 90 listed. Maybe he was not from Bridgend?

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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 04 February 23 18:44 GMT (UK) »
It seems he was married in Bridgend, obviously not from where he was born.  SO marriage/birth certs are required.   See what turns up !!
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Re: Sheila Elizabeth Francis ( Nee Gibson) 1922 - 1995
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 04 February 23 19:16 GMT (UK) »
The marriage was in the Bridgend registration district which covered various parishes, not necessarily in Bridgend itself. Long list here

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/bridgend.html
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb