Robert Robison

[softly softly]

When Mary Jane was born at 10pm 17th October 1860 her father's occupation was a "journeyman coach painter.

John

[Millmoor]

Think he is recorded as Robinson in the 1861 and 1871 census. In 1871 he is in Hamilton with 3 children, Robert Mary Jane and Agnes. Geneanet tree has his death in Dumfries in 1877, 15 June and burial in St Mary's Churchyard.

William

[softly softly]

1861 census
Name:   Robert Robinson
Age:   2
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1859
Relationship:   Son
Father's Name:   Robert Robinson
Mother's Name:   Jane Robinson
Gender:   Male
Where born:   Dumfries
Registration Number:   821
Registration district:   Dumfries
Civil parish:   Dumfries New Church
County:   Dumfriesshire
Address:   Fallas Close High St
ED:   6
Household schedule number:   107
Line:   1
Roll:   CSSCT1861_143
Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship
Robert Robinson 29   Head  occupation coach painter-journeyman
Jane Robinson 25   Wife
Robert Robinson   2   Son
Mary I Robinson 6 Mo   Daughter

This is the address of Mary Jane's birth in 1860

 
in 1871 census Roberts occupation according to Ancestry is Coal Painter

info only

Robert Robison born 1858 mmn BANK
Agnes Robison born 1867 mmn BACK

John

[CaroleW]

Your opening post only mentions a 7 generation chart but you don't say which of the Robison children you are descended from & you still haven't told us where Robert was born.  You also did not appear to know about the birth of daughter Mary Jane?

What was Roberts occupation on the 1858 marriage cert & what was his fathers occupation?

We need to know which of the children of Robert & Jane you are descended from - are you absolutely certain you have the right Robert & Jane marrying in Dumfries?

Here's the reason for asking

1871 for Dumfries - all Robison - not Robinson.  All children from Janet onwards were born Annan

Robert 36 b England - miller/grain dealer
Jane 35 b Gretna
William T 12 b England
Joseph 10 b England
Janet 8
Jane 6
Elizabeth 4
Robert 2
Thomas 6mths

There is no marriage in England for a Robert Robison to a Jane before 1864

[softly softly]

Hi Carole, re your last post

What was Roberts occupation on the 1858 marriage cert & what was his fathers occupation?

His father was Robert Robison occupation Gentlemans Coachman and I believe his mothers maiden name is Harrison

Robert jnr was a coach painter journeyman

Robert in 1861/71 census born Dumfries

John

[Millmoor]

1841 census has a 9 year old Robert Robison at Midrow, Dumfries with Thomas Spalding and Mary Spalding.

1851 census at Queensbury Street, Dumfries
 Thomas Spalding 60
Mary Spalding 57 wife
Robert Spalding son 19 apprentice coach painter b Dumfries

I therefore wonder if Robert was actually Mary Spalding's son. There is a marriage in Troqueer of a Thomas Spalding  to a Mary Morrison in 1837. John could the surname you are reading as Harrison  perhaps be Morrison?

William

[softly softly]

Marriage
SCOTT
JANE
ROBINSON
ROBERT
1858
827 / 3
GRAITNEY OR GRETNA


ROBINSON, WILLIAM  JOHN     mmn SCOTT 
GRO Reference: 1859  S Quarter in CARLISLE  Volume 10B  Page 404


ROBINSON, JOSEPH       mmn SCOTT 
GRO Reference: 1860  D Quarter in CARLISLE  Volume 10B  Page 375

On 1861 census this Robert Robinson is in Carlisle with Jane and 2 children occupation "Miller"

1881 census

son Isaac

ROBINSON
ISAAC RONALD
SCOTT
M
1871
812 / 137
ANNAN


John

[softly softly]

1841 census has a 9 year old Robert Robison at Midrow, Dumfries with Thomas Spalding and Mary Spalding.

1851 census at Queensbury Street, Dumfries
 Thomas Spalding 60
Mary Spalding 57 wife
Robert Spalding son 19 apprentice coach painter b Dumfries

I therefore wonder if Robert was actually Mary Spalding's son. There is a marriage in Troqueer of a Thomas Spalding  to a Mary Morrison in 1837. John could the surname you are reading as Harrison  perhaps be Morrison?

William

Yes, definatley Morrison

John

[softly softly]

Hi, I am ready to be laughed out of court here. Carole's opening comments in post#12 are very valid and a response to them would be welcome. However I do feel the 1871 census details she posted are not our man.

Based on all the info posted this is my take on the life of Robert Robison.

Born c1831/32 in Dumfries, Mother Mary Morrison(as per marriage certificate) and father Robert
1837 Thomas Spalding marries a Mary Morrison
1841 census appears with Thomas Spalding and Mary as Robert Robison
1851 census appears with Thomas and Mary as Robert Spalding- occ apprentice "Coach Painter"
4.10.1851 death of Thomas Spalding aged 62 Dumfries
1858 Robert Robison marries Jane Beck
1861 appears as Robert Robinson-occupation Coach Painter-journeyman at the address re the birth of his daughter Mary Jane Robison
1862 Birth of son James Robison, dies aged 2 1864 Dumfries mmn Beck
1865 Birth of son Thomas Robison, dies aged 1 1866 Dumfries mmn Beck
1871 appears as Robert Robinson in Hamilton with wife & children occ-coach painter.
1877 Probable death aged  45 in Dumfries--details of death cert unknown at present


John

added:

Robert Robinson died aged 47 15th June 1877 husband of Jane Beck. His occupation Coach Painter. Death registered by son Robert Robinson. No fathe recorded but mother Mary Morris- occupation Growser (deceased)