Dilemma....What's going on with name change ?

[garngad]

Thanks Lodger a good bit of info to keep in mind but the short story is.... that my grt grt maternal grand father named John Morrison (1849) was proving hard to trace regards Birth and Marriage and Death the only one fitted seemed to be from a marriage in England (his wife originally from Glasgow) but this man was named Edwin Clark McGaughie so the concensus is that he may have been originally a sailor by the name of Edwin Walter Clark(e) born 1848 hence why ? the name change.

[MonicaL]

.... he may have been originally a sailor by the name of Edwin Walter Clark(e) born 1848 hence why ? the name change.

For two good possible reasons, from what we have seen here:

Deserted the Navy?
Likely still married to Elizabeth Thorn?

Remember, his death reg in 1924 gave good detail on his parents, even though the surname used was McGaughie. However, his father was showing as John Clark McGaughey and mother Lydia Wells.

Have you looked at Edwin's 1921 census entry? Just wondering if anything new showed for his birth place on this.

Monica

[MonicaL]

Please don't go away.

There's a first time for everything Forfarian!

 

[garngad]

Maternal grt grandfather in Glasgow Govan
John Morrison death Jan 1937 aged 50 parents John Morrison Marion McLean ms Shaw
                    census      1921 aged 35  born Glasgow
                    census      1911 aged 23  born Govan
                marriage feb 1906 aged 20 parents John Morrison Marion McLean ms Shaw
                    census      1901 aged 15 born Cathcart parents John Morrison Marion Morrison
                    census      1891 aged  5  born Clarkston parents John Morrison Marion Morrison
should be born circa 1885/6 Lanarkshire or Renfrewshire no birth ties in with parents named.

A John Clark McGaughie born Cathcart mother Marion McGaughie ms McLean in Aug 1885
a look at the siblings on the 1901/1891 census's gave a similar conflicting search of certificates though mother flits between ms McLean/Shaw father is only McGaughie no Morrison.
So this was my initial search for John Morrison who died in 1937 recorded in death and marriage and in the Census's but no birth for the time period but I found the McGaughie births which tied in with time period and place names but no Census data for that family name.

[garngad]

A wee update for those who are interested esp those who added to the post I'm still unsure if to conclude that Edwin Walter Clark / Edwin Clark McGaughie/ John Morrison are all one and the same person after buying all the relevant McGaughie children certificates from Scotland births the last 4
1891 Lydia McGaughie                     born 20 Victoria St Govan
1893 Edwin McGaughie                   born 20 Victoria St Govan died 1896 same address
1896 Edwin Clark McGaughie           born 20 Victoria St Govan
1898 Mary Ann P Clarke McGaughie born 20 Victoria St Govan
parents are named Edwin Clark McGaughie and Marion Mclean McGaughie ms Shaw
no relevant births for the same 1st named Morrison's on the 1891 census found to match similar with the 1901 census with the Morrison family also at 20 Victoria St Govan but no McGaughie family found on the census returns there.
the 1901 marriages of Eveline McGaughie 20 Victoria St Govan in January witness John Morrison then in June 1901 John Morrison 20 Victoria St Govan.
A similar pattern with later McGaughie/Morrison marriages from same address's in Govan also the 1921 census showing John Morrison Marion Morrison their daughter Mary Ann and husband Philip Johnston who later in July 1921 are witness's to Barbara Clark McGaughie's wedding all give 23 Albert St Govan then I'm sure that the Edwin Clark McGaughie that dies in 1924 at 23 Albert St Govan is John Morrison on the Census returns from 1881 in england then 1891/1901/1911 and the 1921 census in Govan still no understanding why half the children use/carried on with Morrison and most of the girls apart from Mary Ann chose McGaughie I can find no births that tie in with the named parents John Morrison and Marion McLean Shaw and all those named children or dates.

[Drumkilty]

Wow I also have been researching the same person and put Edwin Mcgaughie and Edwin W Clatk as the same person. He  is my great grandfather as his daughter Lydia was my grandmother. I again don't know how Morrison came into the equation. I'm sure Lydia Wells and John Clark were his parents. I can't believe someone else is researching him too 🤣

[garngad]

Drumkilty you have to make another couple of posts then I can private mail you if we are researching the same family he was my x2 grt grandfather, then we must be related I would like to pass on everything I have researched if you are interested. Garngad

[Drumkilty]

 I am sure we are definitely related through Edwin Mcgaughie/Clark. I would be really interested in your research. I look forward to hearing from you soon 😊