Dilemma....What's going on with name change ?

[MonicaL]

  One possibility....

Could Edwin have been married? He joined the Royal Navy in 1870.

There is this marriage:

3rd Qrt 1866

Edwin W CLARK         
Portsea    
Vol. 2b/ Pg. 642

Two possible brides: Elizabeth Thorn and Maria A Humby

Edwin would have been young at the time of this marriage, c. 19.

Of course, this marriage needs confirmation to make sure that it is the correct Edwin.

If correct, first wife could well have died before 1877 when he married again in 1877. Although, didn't the register show him as a bachelor? Need to double check that.

Could go a long way to explaining the various aliases I would suggest...

Monica

[MonicaL]

https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

17 Sep 1877 St Mary the Virgin, Deane, Lancashire, England
Edwin Clark McGACHEY 24, Paper Hanger, Bachelor, Daubhill Rumworth
Marion McLane SHAW    20, Domestic Servant, Spinster, Daubhill Rumworth
Groom's Father:   Alexander McGACHEY, Farmer
Bride's Father:     William SHAW, Corker
Witness:              James MARSH    Mary MARSH

[garngad]

Aye that is a good find he could have been married still married when committed to the 2nd with Marion Shaw who may have been pregnant but why when he is so far away from the south of England resident in Scotland did he carry it on maybe he deserted his Navy career and would have been wanted wherever he went esp if his work was still on ships as a caulker/painter .

[MonicaL]

He looks to have had a standard Navy discharge in 1877 from what we had earlier:

UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1848-1939
Edwin Walter Clark
Birth 6 Jun 1848 Portsmouth, Hants
First Service Date: 1 Jan 1873
First Ship Served On: Achilles
Last Service Date: 13 Jun 1877
Last Ship Served On: Orontes
Service Number: 50062

[MonicaL]

However, bigamy was a crimininal offence resulting in a trial and jail. This may explain his need to a. be in Scotland and b. play around with his identity.

However, that 1866 marriage needs confirmation as does whether his wife (if correct) was alive or deceased in 1877.

I can see a couple of births in Portsea with mother's maiden name showing as Thorn (?Elizabeth) but can't see anything so far in the censuses for 1871 and 1881 to help further:

CLARK, EDWARD  JOHN JAMES     THORN     
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND  Volume 02B  Page 440

Added: Likely death for him: Deaths 3rd Qrt 1868 
CLARK Edward John J    1    Portsea    2b   306

CLARK, ELIZABETH  TEDINA      THORN     
GRO Reference: 1872  J Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND  Volume 02B  Page 491

Added: A further early death it seems: Deaths 1st Qrt 1873
Clark Elizabeth Tedina 0    Portsea    2b   299

Monica

[MonicaL]

In 1871, at 115 Surrey Street in Portsea, we have Elizabeth Clark. Given the description of her husband, I would say that it is very likely Edwin. He had already joined the Navy by now and showing as Forfarian found with the RN on the 1871 census. First born had died and before the birth of baby Elizabeth, Elizabeth looks to be living by herself:

[MonicaL]

I can't see any other children after the birth of Elizabeth Jnr in 1872.

So, the question for me is...what happened to Elizabeth Snr after the death of her daughter in 1873 I wonder?

I think this might be Elizabeth Thorn in 1861 with her family www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWM6-725 The address for this entry is showing as 111 Surrey Street, Portsea. She showed in 1871 at 115 Surrey Street. Her family were still living at 111 Surrey Street in 1871.


Monica

[garngad]

The trouble is Monica though we have Edwin McGaughie and Marion Shaw now married and living in Wellington Salop and Im wondering if his employment either as a ship caulker/painter would in lean times turn to say painting rendering buildings say churches for example may account for him being more inland at this period then through Marion's fathers work and connections taken him up to Glasgow why choose the name McGaughie him being English, Morrison I could understand but McGaughie seems far from being easy to remember and yet 3/4 decades later his children are still using it well some of them there has to be some kind of connection to McGaughie/Morrison family name somewhere I can see he kept Clark in his McGaughie persona but not in his Morrison.

[Forfarian]

I wonder who the Elizabeth Thorn is who married either Henry Thomas A Canaway or Henry Jenner Peirce in Portsea 1875/March/2b/542?