William FRANCE (FRANCES,FRANCES) and wife Christina (nee NEED)

[DeeBee58]

Hi
I am looking for help to find information on William FRANCE (FRANCES,FRANCIS) and wife Christina (maiden name NEED)
I would like to know if possible how and when they came to Australia - perhaps in the 1850's
I don't know if they were married before they came to Australia or after.
I have a copy of Christina's death certificate and do know from that, that she was a native of London and was born in about 1817.
Also where and when William died. It would have been sometime after 1864.
Thanks in advance
Regards
Debbie

[erinb1983]

Do you have any idea which state in Australia they lived in? Or where their children were born?

[sparrett]

Related post from 2014
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=678014.msg5227231#msg5227231

Hi Rosie

They had 2 children both born in Victoria, Australia
John abt 1859 and Sarah abt 1856

Debbie

Also contained therein,  a little more information.
Sue

[sparrett]

DeeBee58

Would you kindly type out the exact wording under every column/heading on the death certificate for Christina.

Please don't omit anything and don't paraphrase or summarise.

This may produce a good clear starting point for your inquiry. 
Sue

[Neale1961]

Have you looked at the 1866 Victorian death for a William France?

Inquest for that death
https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/6623A884-F1B8-11E9-AE98-E345F1C54562?image=1

[Neale1961]

To avoid duplication - this thread related to Sarah France, daughter of the above couple.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=674012.0

[sparrett]

On the thread about John Mazzalotti, linked above by Neale1961, there is lengthy discussion about the birth of a child named Alice.

This child -
FRANCE Alice
Mothr   Sarah FRANCE
Father UK
At TIMO
1872
26813/1872

This news item and other around the time make her parenthood clearer.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5876020?searchTerm=%22sarah%20france%22

She was about 14/15 years at this time as stated in the news items and this fits with her death notice in 1940 with an age of 86. (b.1854)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/11301721

Sue

[Neale1961]

Sarah taken in by Ryecrofts after her mother died. (Edited]
The child, John France, died in 1862 (age 3) resulting from burns in a shepherd's hut.

That might explain the mother's "unsound mind" -see Police Gazette

[sparrett]

So Alice was in the care of some other family after her mother died in 1863.
 

In brief, the people in whose care Sarah FRANCE was, were I think, Joseph RYCROFT.
Allegedly, the infant's father was John JAGO.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/201297477?searchTerm=%22Jago%20France%20%22~20

Sue

ADDING,
I am trying to figure how RYCROFT has Sarah FRANCE as a sister in law