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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 00:28 GMT (UK) »
Speculation:
Robert Underdown (father) had died in 1886 and his burial is recorded at Bendigo Cemetery, (Grave listing - BGO-MON-L7X-9989)  The mother, Elizabeth was buried in the same grave in 1916.  If that cemetery plot had been bought, it would seem possible that a child of theirs who died in 1889 in Bendigo may also have been buried in that grave and, as already stated there is no record of that happening.  Someone else may be able to see if there is a way of searching Bendigo cemetery records by grave listing.

I note that one of the  Wikitree links makes the comment:
Evidence that the child Elizabeth (born approximately 1868, died 1898) is a child of Robert and Elizabeth is given in The Bendigo Advertiser dated 15/7/1868. A servant at the local hotel gave birth to a baby girl called Kate Kane and the owners of the hotel decided to adopt the girl. They paid “Mrs Robert Underdown” 8s a week to nurse the child (which indicates that she had been nursing one of her own). but as we've seen (well found, Sue)  the baby was fed on goat's milk.  This Wikitree link doesn't show an Elizabeth b1868 in the list of children of Robert and Elizabeth, and has no reference for the death in 1898 while citing many other excellent references)

Perhaps an email to the author of the Wikitree information may help?

Judith
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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 01:21 GMT (UK) »
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I am trying to locate the source of a burial for an Elizabeth Underdown who died age 30 in Bendigo, Victoria, Australia in 1898. Her father was recorded as Robert and her mother as Elizabeth.
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There is no death registration for this person on my resources or the Vic BDM online database.

On my resource I can search for a death in Victoria using just the given name, parents given names age and year.  Nothing for an Eliza/Elizabeth in 1898 aged 30 years with parents Robert and Elizabeth.

In my opinion family history can only be researched using primary and secondary sources.  You need to purchase a few certificates along the way to validate your research.

If this  was my family and I suspected there was another child whose birth had not been registered, I would purchase the youngest child's birth certificate.  This would record all previous children born to the parents including chn who had died.  I do recall a long thread some years ago about quarterly returns from the Bendigo area which were not submitted to the Melbourne Registry.  Perhaps make some enquiries to the one of the Bendigo history or genealogy societies.

I have researched as thoroughly as possible using my own resources and those available online.  The only Eliza/Elizabeth UNDERDOWN death in 1898 in Vic, SA, WA, Qld, NSW and Tasmania with parents Robert (BEAVIS )and Elizabeth was in Western Australia however she was aged 38.

Eliza's second marriage was to William Joshua UNDERDOWN, son of Robert UNDERDOWN and Elizabeth McBROOM.  He appears to be known to his family as Joshua.

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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 02:01 GMT (UK) »
Just adding also to my reply #17, I do notice the document makes no mention of any other infant (registered or not) in the household of Mr and Mrs UNDERDOWN in July 1868, around the time of the death of Kate KANE who was in in their care.
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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 05:05 GMT (UK) »
Before  many resources were around and our old team were on rootschat ;D we researched some of this family.  In 2008.  Those were the days....co-operation and all messages acknowledged and appreciated. I even purchased Elizabeth UNDERDOWN'S 1916 death cert to help us sort out the family. 

No Elizabeth/Eliza born c1868 either.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=294569.0

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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 06:03 GMT (UK) »
Adding - looking at the R'chat link provided by Cando it seems possible that the OP is the author of the Wiki information so my suggestion to make contact is a bit superfuous.

Goodness - (nothing to do with the Underdown family) this is just like old times!

Judith
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Re: Victorian Burial Source - Elizabeth Underdown d 1898
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 25 January 23 20:49 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that. Greatly appreciated.
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