George Jenkins WW1 1st Devons

[Jed Stu]

Please can you help expand on my great uncles military record and history.

I have George Jenkins’s WW1 Death Penny

Henry George Cyril Jenkins, was born on 1st July 1893, Cardiff.

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Was Henry 'George' Cyril Jenkins with the 1st or the 11th Devons?

Was the Torbay Hospital a military hospital during WW1, and might it be possible to find out what George's injuries were?

I don't believe there is a Commonwealth War Graves Commissioner grave for George, should there be one?

Is it possible to find out where the 1st / 11th Devonz served and fought over in France?

Does anyone have access to the Keep Military Museum, I believe they have some 'Devons' records?

I haven't been able to find any reference to George's medal 'issue'.

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George Jenkins

Devons Regiment
11th (or 1st ?) Battn.

Regimental No. 12725
Death Date. 24 Feb 1915
Date Place  Torbay Hospital, Torquay.

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Henry George Cyril Jenkins, aged 21 years.
Private 1st Devons

Buried Monday 1st Mar 1915.
Cathays Cemetery, Cardiff.

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Ref: The attached file... please can you tell me what the abbreviations mean on this Register, and are there any other miltary documents relating to my great uncle... many thanks.

George Cyril Jenkins
U.K., Army Registers of Soldiers Effects.1901-1929

Records No.   150500A6
Registry No.   E / 84119 / 1
Soldier’s Name  Jenkins George Cyril
Regiment, Rank, No.  11 Serv  Battn Devonshire  Reg.t Pte  12725
Date and Place of Death  24.2.15.  Torbay Hospital Torquay

Place of Birth, Date of Enlistment, Trade on Enlistment

(1) Whether Will left, and if so, Name of Legatee and how disposed of
(2) If no Will, Next of Kin as stated by Regiment

Credits.
Account and Date  Exeter. May 15
£2 s.18 d.2

Charges
£2 s.18 d.2
Account and Date  M.O. 7 / 15

Date of Authority. 15. 7. 15/1

To Whom Authorised  Fa: David A.

Amount Authorised  £2 s.18 d.2

(2nd Line)
Date of Authority
C.P.E.C. }. 8. 4.16/2
Accts 7  }

To Whom Authorised  Fa: David A.

Amount Authorised  £2 s.18 d.2 {
{ Vote 6E(1) £7-4•/-
{ Vote 1D2   £3-15•/-
{ Funeral expenses

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Many thanks, and I look forward to learning more.
Jed

[MaecW]

A check on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website shows George (HGC) Jenkins (No 12725) served with the 11th (Reserve) Battalion of the Devons and died 24 Feb 1915. He is buried in Cathays cemetery, Cardiff. There is reference to an address (parents / wife ?) at 22 Loudoun Square  Cardiff.  The notes attached to the entry indicate that, in common with several others, no headstone was included in the original burial order. Whether this was something to be done later or was left to the family to do is not clear.

The Long long Trail website (longlongtrail.co.uk) explains that: "most of the British infantry regiments had a number of Reserve Battalions during the Great War. They were responsible for training of recruits and of men returning to duty after being in medical care or away for any other reasons."
The 11th (Reserve) Battalion of the Devonshire Regiment was
Formed in Exeter in November 1914 as Service battalion, part of K4.
November 1914 : came under orders of 100th Brigade, original 33rd Division.
10 April 1915 : became a Reserve battalion.
1 September 1916 : converted into 44th Training Reserve Battalion in 10th Reserve Brigade.

From this it seems that the 11th Bn was not a Reserve Bn at the time of George's death but was probably in training and homeland guard duties.

It may also pay you to check the Military Records on Ancestry to see if they have more information there. I am unable to access them at the moment.

Maec

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

Some of the same info as given by Maec, I was typing while that was being posted, so I'll post this too



I think this is his CWGC reference,

https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2759365/george-jenkins/

It looks like the graves are very well kept,

https://www.cwgc.org/visit-us/find-cemeteries-memorials/cemetery-details/2072516/cardiff-cathays-cemetery/



There is a page about him at findagrave. It has a newspaper cutting that gives his cause of death as influenza, it also has a picture.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/55899749/george-jenkins

I found the same newspaper report in the Western Mail 02 March 1915.



This could be his death certificate, Torquay was in the Newton Abbot Registration District,

George Henry JENKINS    Mar Q 1915    Newton Abbot    5b  266
Age:  21


Regards,
Daisy

[Daisypetal]

I also found this,

03 March 1915  Western Mail

[ALAMO2008]

Sadly he Died of Influenza while Training with the 11th Devonshire in Feb 1915
Because he never went Overseas
No Medals were due
Hence No Medal Index Card
CWGC erected a Military Headstone 15 February 1924 I Cathays Cemetery
I would have expected to find a Dependents Pension Card to his Mother or Father David
But can't find one ?

[AllanUK]

Sadly he Died of Influenza while Training with the 11th Devonshire in Feb 1915

There are 4 pension cards held on Fold3 - his mother, Sarah, received a dependants pension and after she died, his father, David, became the recipient.

The most interesting card of the 4 is the one that I have attached -- it states the cause of death as MENINGITIS.
(image courtesy of Fold3 / Western Front)

[ALAMO2008]

Well Done AllanUK

[ALAMO2008]

CWGC page

[Jed Stu]

Good morning Maec (and everyone)
Thank you so very much for your knowledge, dates and explanation surrounding George's unit.
Do please send me any website links, images or screenshots relating to the 11th Devons... if you're able and when you have a moment. 
Thank you once again. Have a great weekend.  Jed

A check on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website shows George (HGC) Jenkins (No 12725) served with the 11th (Reserve) Battalion of the Devons and died 24 Feb 1915. He is buried in Cathays cemetery, Cardiff. There is reference to an address (parents / wife ?) at 22 Loudoun Square  Cardiff.  The notes attached to the entry indicate that, in common with several others, no headstone was included in the original burial order. Whether this was something to be done later or was left to the family to do is not clear.

The Long long Trail website (longlongtrail.co.uk) explains that: "most of the British infantry regiments had a number of Reserve Battalions during the Great War. They were responsible for training of recruits and of men returning to duty after being in medical care or away for any other reasons."
The 11th (Reserve) Battalion of the Devonshire Regiment was
Formed in Exeter in November 1914 as Service battalion, part of K4.
November 1914 : came under orders of 100th Brigade, original 33rd Division.
10 April 1915 : became a Reserve battalion.
1 September 1916 : converted into 44th Training Reserve Battalion in 10th Reserve Brigade.

From this it seems that the 11th Bn was not a Reserve Bn at the time of George's death but was probably in training and homeland guard duties.

It may also pay you to check the Military Records on Ancestry to see if they have more information there. I am unable to access them at the moment.

Maec