William Griggs, Grenedier Guards in 1841 in Canada

[tonythurston]

My ancestor, William Griggs, died in the Grenadier Guards Hospital in Westminster in 1849. I have his death record. He was 39. In 1841 he married Mary Muttart in Toronto and there is a lovely record of the birth of their daughter Louisa born in the Anglian Garrison in Quebec in 1842 and further confirmation that William was in the Grenedier Guards.

William was married earlier to Emma Wratten in 1837 in Paddington

I am seeking your advice on how I can locaate William's military record and his marriage (and birth record in Toronto 1820) with Mary, please?

Any insights would be greatly appreciated

Many thanks, Tony

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Here's there on the 1841 World Wide Army Index in Quebec
William Griggs  Rank Corporal
 Unit or Regiment 1st Foot Guards With 2nd Bn
Service number 1743
The National Archive reference WO 12/1631


The Grenedier Guards were the First Foot Guards.
I'm sorry to say it's not my area and I can't see anything else but maybe someone else can do better.

He had a son George William Griggs bapt 15 July 1838 at Croydon St John with his first wife.Address Croydon Barracks and again Grenedier Guards.
Son Goerge William Griggs also joined the regiment as a Drummer 1848 age 10 years at Chichester
His service record is on Find My Past
Discharged London 15 May 1866
He served in North America was 21 times in defaulters book and once Court martialed.
1851 Army index  London and Chichester no 5489
1861 Army Index Dublin; Curragh; Aldershot; Tower of London; Windsor

Just not spotting Dad


Ciderdrinker

[tonythurston]

Thank you ciderdrinker - that information is much appreciated

[ciderdrinker]

Here's a bit more
Other children with Emma -possibly Emma Wratton bapt 9 Dec 1835 at St Marylebone ,William a servant Northumberland St.Charles born 21 June 1840 Ely Place St George Southwark ,father in Guards.
It looks like Emma left William for a Wilfred Shimmings also of the Grenedier Guards 1814-1887.
Emma didn't die till 1901 if so.

But back to Mary Muttart she remarried in London at St James Westminster 19 March 1866
James Thornton iron fitter bach 4 Tolliet Place Edward Thornton dec iron fitter
Mary Griggs widow same address father John Muttart dec farmer.
wit T Weat? Louisa Walter.

Ciderdrinker

[tonythurston]

Thank you

I figured out your post and updated my reply

Emma's daughter Emma bap 1835 as you suggest

Emma Wratten bap 5 May 1811, Sandhurst; died 1901. After William died in 1849 she remarried Wilfred in 1856. Interesting he was in the Grenadier Guards

Agree Mary married James Thornton in 1866 aand migrated to Melbourne. They are buried together

Thank you very much