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Offline donna.cav

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Drummond (Drumm)
« on: Thursday 05 January 23 04:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,

I've hit a brick wall finding details of an ancestor; James Drumm (Drummond). I can see he arrived in Adelaide, South Australia from Plymouth, under last name "Drunner" in 1979 aboard "Salisbury" with wife Frances M (nee. Chapel or Rees/e) and son, Arthur J. The Biographical Index of South Australia indicates James was born on 5 Feb 1851 in Greenock, Scotland. I can't find any record of his birth. I've also not found record of his death. Frances' hospital records in 1904 indicate his was deceased by this stage (marital status: W), so I believe he passed somewhere between his arrival and 1904. I also believe he was a police officer in South Australia following his arrival.
 
Please feel free to  :)refer to my Ancestry tree, profile for James Drumm (Drummond), which contains specifics and additional evidence, sources, etc:

https://www.ancestry.com.au/family-tree/person/tree/42347091/person/332431902679/facts

If anyone is able to assist with finding any new information, particularly regarding his death, birth, or circumstances surrounding his disappearance from records that would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks in advance,
Donna

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Re: Drummond (Drumm)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 January 23 00:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Donna

I've tried to view your tree on Ancestry but it's private.  Are you able to change it to public?

Kind regards
Debbie  :)

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Re: Drummond (Drumm)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 January 23 02:20 GMT (UK) »
I can't find any record of his birth.

His marriage cert should name his father and give an occupation.

Is it this one?

Marriages Jun 1872 

COTTER    Ellen        
DRUMM James     
Ganter Franz Xaver   
REES Frances

Marylebone    1a   1111

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Re: Drummond (Drumm)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 January 23 02:33 GMT (UK) »
Was he possibly discharged in Wilcannia for misconduct?
1882

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/238467631?searchTerm=%22constable%20drumm%22

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Re: Drummond (Drumm)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 18 January 23 02:42 GMT (UK) »
Was this family Catholic?

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Re: Drummond (Drumm)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 18 January 23 03:04 GMT (UK) »
The daughter Frances Alice married John Edward GRAY in 1911. 247/492

And she with others of the GRAY family and mother Frances and brother Arthur are buried at West Terrace Cemetery S A.

https://aca.sa.gov.au/Records/

In Mem placed by a daughter named Alice in 1909.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/88317241

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Re: Drummond (Drumm)
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 January 23 03:30 GMT (UK) »
Possible Baptism record forJames Drummond
23 May 1851 Greenock
Parents - James Drummond and Margaret Orr

Added: I'm not convinced this is the correct family.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Drummond (Drumm)
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 18 January 23 04:02 GMT (UK) »
There are 1 South Australian Police Gazette items about James DRUMM.
One in NSW.
And I see one regarding Arthur too.
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Re: Drummond (Drumm)
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 January 23 04:20 GMT (UK) »
You have possibly already seen this - Police Constable James DRUMM in 1881
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/94761542 (middle of the first column)