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Re: Toners Dublin
« Reply #72 on: Wednesday 04 January 23 11:04 GMT (UK) »
He said he had brothers and sisters Mona, Pauline, and a brother Desie.

I think that the idea is that these are cousins to Anthony, not siblings, that is if Anthony's father was Peter and their father was William.

I can see Peter born 1876 with his wife Elizabeth and one son in Dublin in 1911.

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« Reply #73 on: Wednesday 04 January 23 11:26 GMT (UK) »
So it's the Peter that married Elizabeth Carroll, had a son that went to England?

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« Reply #74 on: Wednesday 04 January 23 11:34 GMT (UK) »
That is really good getting a reply so soon. I am so pleased for you.  :)

So here is Peter in 1911

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Wood_Quay__part_of_/Arthur_s_Lane/85495/

still with only one child, John Joseph b 1899
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02020/1775169.pdf

Now - is he the one we are searching for?
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Re: Toners Dublin
« Reply #76 on: Wednesday 04 January 23 11:44 GMT (UK) »
Maybe that tree will have mother's names and that it will make sense, too many men with the same names to make sense of it

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« Reply #77 on: Wednesday 04 January 23 11:46 GMT (UK) »
The ages doesn’t make sense - Peter or John Joseph.
Anthony did not marry in England until 1950s.


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« Reply #78 on: Wednesday 04 January 23 11:50 GMT (UK) »
He also says James/Seamus died of flu in 1918 but James married in 1920 and I can't find a death of a James in 1918-1920.

Sorry that would be the wrong James.

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« Reply #79 on: Wednesday 04 January 23 11:56 GMT (UK) »
I think that Peter's son John Joseph died in 1918.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05188/4432842.pdf

I suppose the question is whether Peter left the family and took up with someone else.

Debra  :D

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« Reply #80 on: Wednesday 04 January 23 11:57 GMT (UK) »

  Mona, Pauline and Dessie were my aunts and uncle.  There were four other siblings, William (my father), Seamus (who died in the 1918 flu), Joseph, and Sean.  They are all now deceased.   My grandfather, also William Toner, had five siblings, Ciss, Jim, Margaret, Johnny, and Peter.  I never met Peter.  I was told that he was a bit ‘wild’ and had gone to England!
So there is
William
Seamus/James
Joseph
Sean/John
Mona/ Mary
Pauline
Dessie/Desmond

Earlier generation
William
Cis
Jim
Margaret
Johnny
Peter

I had this earlier generation as
1 Peter 1876 married Elizabeth Carroll in 1898
2 William 1878 married Ellen Strafford 1907
3 John 1882
4 Norah 1886 Likely the one who died as not in 1901 Census with family
5 Margaret 1889
6 James 1891 - 1956 married Margaret Lawlor 1920 a daughter Johanna died 1971 and two posted earlier.
7 Catherine 1894 likely married John Roberts but marriage not found