Mr great-great-grandfather Arthur Gibson (b abt. 1883 – TBC)

[bbart]

IF this is the right Elizabeth, it might help narrow the timeline:

1954 Electoral Register
Elizabeth L. GIBSON, and the only other person at the same address is Elizabeth Agnes HEATH.
10 Clanricarde Gardens, Kensington

[bbart]

Following up on my above post, it would appear that Elizabeth Agnes Heath is Elizabeth Lucy Gibson's mother?
From 1947 and earlier, Mrs. Heath resided there, sometimes with other people, perhaps boarders or a servant

1948
10 Clanricarde Gardens, Kensington
Elizabeth Agnes Heath
William J. C. Gibson
(and some others of a different surname)


1949
10 Clanricarde Gardens, Kensington
Elizabeth Agnes Heath
Elizabeth L. Gibson
William J. C. Gibson

Elizabeth L. Gibson is there  with her through the available registers until 1955 (at least).  There doesn't seem to be any later registers for that address online that I can find.

Edit:  The problem with the above, is that after some poking around, I *think* the above William J. C. Gibson could be William James Carmichael Gibson.  He lived in the same area in other registers.
I cannot find ANY relationship to your Gibsons.  It is possible, however, that as he was for some years living in the same area, it is just coincidence of the Gibson name that a future neighbour was staying with them.  (His father was James Whitaker Gibson, son of William Charles Gibson).

[softly softly]

That could be a good lead Bbart.Going by the dates and the fact that Arthur and Elizabeth “moved around “ I yesterday spotted this death in 1946, mq stafford(63). He left a probate record stating died 22.2.1946, address 36, west street,leek,stafford. No mention though of Elizabeth.wonder who was at that address in 1939-1946 electoral registers

John

[softly softly]

Not him, appears at that address in 1939 as a single man

John

[olympus593]

Hi Everyone. Thank you so much for your comments, particularly the post-1939 address details for Elizabeth Lucy Gibson and her mother, Elizabeth Agnes Heath, as I did not have a record of them so thank you!

I thought I would answer a few of the above replies here and provide an update! I will do some more research into addresses etc and post my findings.

Elizabeth Agnes Heath (b abt. 1883 – TBC) is indeed Elizabeth Lucy Heath’s mother.

In the electoral register from 1935, Arthur and Elizabeth Lucy Gibson are living in ‘Halfway’, Walton Park, Chertsey, Surrey. Arthurs’s mother in law, Elizabeth Agnes Heath, is also living at the address.
In the electoral register from 1938, Elizabeth and Arthur are living at 58 Addison Gardens, Hammersmith, London.

In the 1939 England and Wales Register. Arthur and Elizabeth are recorded as living at 15 Huntille Cottages, Stoke-On-Trent. Arthur’s son Arthur Frear Gibson (b 1915 – d 1975), daughter in law Violet, and granddaughter Beryl (b 1939 – d 1941) are living with them. Arthur was working as a Clerk of Works (Bldg & Public) and did this for most of his life.

Elizabeth Agnes Heath and Elizabeth Lucy Gibson

From 1936 – 1964 Arthur’s mother in law, Elizabeth Agnes Heath, lived at No. 10, basement, Clanricarde Gardens, Kensington, London. In the 1939 Register Elizabeth is working as a caretaker. No. 10, basement, Clanricarde Gardens, Kensington is a few streets away from No. 58 Addison Gardens, Hammersmith.

It would appear the Elizabeth Lucy Gibson lived with her mother at the above address for some years, likely after Arthur passed away (maybe 1948 in Stoke-on-Trent). The earliest year I could find for her living with here mother at No. 10 was 1949 and the latest date 1964.

From my initial research I found that William James Carmichael Gibson was living with/next to them for a few years, that being said I am pretty sure he was a not relation. I know that it was common to have lodgers during this period.

I have tried again to find an address for Arthur Gibson post-1939, also tried for an earlier address with Elizabeth Lucy Gibson from say 1945. Maybe some records were destroyed, not taken during WW2. May explain why we have a gap of a few years.

Unfortunately my relative does not have Arthur's daughter, Millicent's, marriage certificate from 1944. I have ordered Arthur's father, Frear's, will from 1940 so hopefully that gets emailed to me in a week or so.

[rosie99]

In the electoral register from 1935, Arthur and Elizabeth Lucy Gibson are living in ‘Halfway’, Walton Park, Chertsey, Surrey.

Chertsey is the Parliamentary district, the parish (town) where they are living is Walton on Thames. 

[olympus593]

Hi everyone. The will for Frear Gibson (d 1840), Arthur's father came through today. I had a question as I have no experience with wills.

James Alan Reekie (b 1904 – d 1974) was the sole executor and beneficiary of Frear Gibson's estate. Frear states in his will ‘ I give and bequeath all my estate..... to my son James Alan Reekie of 16 Park Road East, Ashington.’ The will was written in 1938 and Frear died in 1940. We know that his is son Arthur Gibson (b 1883 - TBC) was alive at the time, he was not mentioned in the will.

Frear married his second wife Mary Simpson Reekie, née Culley (b 1871 – d 1938) in Newcastle upon Tyne in 1915. The couple at the time of marriage were living at 56 Beaconsfield Street, Newcastle upon Tyne. 56 Beaconsfield Street, Newcastle upon Tyne was the Reekie’s family home. Mary Simpson Culley's first husband, James Reekie died in 1907.

My question. Do you think its likely that James Alan Reekie was also Frear's son due to the wording in the will? I must admit the will has taken my a bit by surprise. I knew that at the time of Frear's death he was living with James Alan Reekie and his family. I did have a quick look and in 1911 Frear and his first wife were living in the general area, at 51 Trewhitt Road, Newcastle upon tyne.

'my Son' is underlined in the will, I don't know if this has any significance.

In the 1911 census for both families, Gibson and Reekie they each only mention having 1 child born, 0 child died but I believe that is only for the most recent marriage so not sure how much use that is for children born outside of the marriage.

Any advice or information you might have on will would be greatly appreciated. Sadly no further forward with Arthur Gibson (b 1883).

[olympus593]

Hi everyone. Do you think in the will if Frear's son is listed as James Alan Reekie then that must be the case? I am not sure if they would list step son etc. Would be interested to here your thoughts. Cheers,

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

I think that the 1948 death might be the right one,

Arthur GIBSON    Dec Q 1948    Stoke on Trent    9b  479


As you say, in 1939 the family are living at 15 Huntilee Cottages, I found this newspaper report that looks like it refers to him,

Staffordshire Sentinel 29 November 1948


Regards,
Daisy