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Re: Did Murtha marry twice?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 16 January 23 15:51 GMT (UK) »
I  can  answer  my  own question,  i  think, A   Michael  Fennelly,  Palmers  hill, Ballacolla, [do not know the connection]  married  Mary  Leonard,  Aghaboe,  on  25/1/1836. Also  Bridget  Finley, on my family  tree,  is  Murta and Mary [Bergin's]  last  child. This  means that Michael, and not  Murtha  [1] is  my GGG grandfather.  Thomas [1]    Murtha [2] [2] and Mike,[3].  Feno.

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Re: Did Murtha marry twice?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 12 February 23 13:34 GMT (UK) »
That’s the information that I’d found , that I could find my GGG grandad being Murty marrying Mary Bergin and not going on to marry a Mary Leonard , but i’d seen this posted on so many peoples family trees. I’d found a Michael Fennelly marrying a Mary Leonard , you’ve now also found this . I sent you a message to share the info I had cos I’m not sure how to post on here. I wonder if Murtha and Michael were siblings meaning that Ben and Bridget were still both our ancestors. Obviously Murtha the name still features in your tree as one of Mary and Micheal children , I do hope there’s still a link between us.

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Re: Did Murtha marry twice?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 12 February 23 14:45 GMT (UK) »
...Michael  Fennelly,  Palmers  hill, Ballacolla, [do not know the connection]  married  Mary  Leonard,  Aghaboe... 

Palmershill townland, Co. Laois
https://www.townlands.ie/laois/clarmallagh/aghaboe/kildellig/palmershill/

Aghaboe townland, Co. Laois
https://www.townlands.ie/laois/clarmallagh/aghaboe/kildellig/aghaboe/

Ballacolla village about 7-8 km to the south east of both townlands.

Ballycolla t/l, Ballacolla
https://www.townlands.ie/laois/clarmallagh/aghaboe/killermogh/ballycolla/

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https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4541255#map=13/52.8962/-7.5040


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Re: Did Murtha marry twice?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 12 February 23 15:53 GMT (UK) »
I think Feno is local to the area but I live in Yorkshire UK but visited last summer, we visited the graveyard at Aghaboe and stayed in Ballacolla. My Grandma used to always say if ever we drove up and down an incline….. ‘ up the hill and down the holla, that’s the way to Ballacolla ‘ 😆x


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Re: Did Murtha marry twice?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 12 February 23 15:54 GMT (UK) »
Busy trying to find if Murta and Michael are syblings .

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Re: Did Murtha marry twice?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 16 February 23 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Feno …. Just found the marriage of Mary Leonard , as above  25.01.1836 , listed as marrying Michael on Roots Ireland , but the same marriage on Family Search as being Murt , so that’s our confusion. Still doesn’t answer whether the Murts are both the same man and that he married twice but makes some sense. I’m going to try and find out now if Mary Ann Bergin  ( Fennelly) died prior to this marriage, which would make two marriages more feasible.

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Re: Did Murtha marry twice?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 04 December 24 04:51 GMT (UK) »
Feno …. Just found the marriage of Mary Leonard , as above  25.01.1836 , listed as marrying Michael on Roots Ireland , but the same marriage on Family Search as being Murt , so that’s our confusion.

I can never understand why many people rely on transcriptions when originals are available. Especially as here, where two transcriptions differ.
Here is a link for the original parish register entry, in Aghaboe, Laois:
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635288#page/112/mode/1up

One can clearly see that the groom's Christian name is Murt.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Did Murtha marry twice?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 04 December 24 05:05 GMT (UK) »
And here is a link for the marriage of Murtagh Fennelly to Mary Bergin in Aghaboe, Laois, on 1st December 1820 (not 1821).
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635287#page/122/mode/1up
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Did Murtha marry twice?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 04 December 24 05:12 GMT (UK) »
I can't see why/where this Murtha/Martin question arises.
On every record I have found - both marriages, and any of the baptisms I have managed to locate (not all), the Christian name of the groom/father is Murt/Murtha - no sign of Martin, unless it is a baptism I did not locate.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area