Betsy & John Harold Terry

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1921 2 Sundle Ave York Townshiop

Frederick Terry 43   Head
Alice Terry 42   Wife
Frederick Terry   23   Son

That must be another Fred/Alice?

I think this is them in 1921:

Frederick Terry
Age:    49
Birth Year:    abt 1872
Birth Place:    England
Year of Immigration:    1903
Residence Date:    1 Jun 1921
Residence:   863 12th Ave E , Vancouver
Occupation, Bank messenger

Wife Alice

No other family with them.

[buttercup2009]

I don't believe this is them - the names are wrong - Frederick Harold now calling himself Jack but also John's father Frederick William b: 1871 did remarry and Alice Armstrong and he worked at a bank as a Clerk after leaving Revelstoke where his wife died in 1903.

1921 2 Sundle Ave York Townshiop

Frederick Terry 43   Head
Alice Terry 42   Wife
Frederick Terry   23   Son

Sandra

[buttercup2009]

This is his father Frederick William who married Alice Armstrong after his wife died in Revelstoke in 1907 not 1903 the year of their immigration - thank you

I don't believe this is them - the names are wrong - Frederick Harold now calling himself Jack but also John's father Frederick William b: 1871 did remarry and Alice Armstrong and he worked at a bank as a Clerk after leaving Revelstoke where his wife died in 1903.

1921 2 Sundle Ave York Townshiop

Frederick Terry 43   Head
Alice Terry 42   Wife
Frederick Terry   23   Son

Sandra

[buttercup2009]

This is Frederick Harold's father - he married Alice Armstrong. Frederick H now known as John H Terry also married an Alice Chone in Florida. She was from France and married before also. They died in Florida in the 1980's.

1921 2 Sundle Ave York Townshiop

Frederick Terry 43   Head
Alice Terry 42   Wife
Frederick Terry   23   Son

Sandra

[buttercup2009]

That is Frederick/Jack/John Harold's father - thank you

1921 2 Sundle Ave York Townshiop

Frederick Terry 43   Head
Alice Terry 42   Wife
Frederick Terry   23   Son

That must be another Fred/Alice?

I think this is them in 1921:

Frederick Terry
Age:    49
Birth Year:    abt 1872
Birth Place:    England
Year of Immigration:    1903
Residence Date:    1 Jun 1921
Residence:   863 12th Ave E , Vancouver
Occupation, Bank messenger

Wife Alice

No other family with them.

[buttercup2009]

This is their father Frederick William - thank you

Sandra, there is an obit for Fred/John/etc's father that apparently mentions a son, Fred.

Are you able to see this:
Name:    Frederick William Terry
Gender:    Male
Death Age:    83
Birth Date:    abt 1872
Birth Place:    England
Residence Place:    West Fourteenth
Death Date:    Abt 1955
Obituary Date:    16 Mar 1955
Obituary Place:    Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Newspaper Title:    The Vancouver News-Herald
Spouse:    Alice
Child:    Dorothy Harding
Chris
Fred

[buttercup2009]

There is a George Jones born in Cuckfield (just outside Brighton) and an area Betsy seems to be from (Traveller family) in 1918 maiden name and birth name Jones. It's still possible the child is Fred/John/Jack's as he was posted in this area, Seaford, Eastbourne in Sussex. Oddly there is a George H Terry registered in 1923 in Brighton maiden name Jones which threw me I may get the certificate. Would that legitimise him they were travelling under the name Terry to Canada.

Is little George technically a Jones?  He would have been born 1917 or 1918, and Betsy didn't marry John/Fred/etc until 1919?   I'm just wondering if Betsy came to Canada, and hubby was no where to be found, perhaps she went back to England and went back to Jones?

[*Sandra*]

The Vancouver Sun
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
11 Aug 1937, Wed  •  Page 20

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/115004747/obituary-for-alice-terry/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01s00/

FIND A GRAVE

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/238888213/alice-terry

Sandra

[buttercup2009]

Thank you Sandra - this is Frederick William Terry's second wife, apparent she was out and collapsed in the street with a heart attack! She was Alice Armstrong from Ireland not to be confused with his son Frederick H/John/Jack's second wife, also Alice (Chone) they married in West Palm Beach Florida in 1951. So has Betsy died or divorced and where is George. I have sent for their marriage certificate in Brighton in 1919 calling himself Jack.

The Vancouver Sun
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
11 Aug 1937, Wed  •  Page 20

https://www.newspapers.com/clip/115004747/obituary-for-alice-terry/

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01s00/

FIND A GRAVE

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/238888213/alice-terry

Sandra