Betsy & John Harold Terry

[Lisa in California]

…One clue is that on a border crossing he gives the name of Harry Jones and I wondered if there was a connection to Betsy but I can't see what it is as he's from Pennsylvania...

What is the date of the border crossing, please? I haven’t found it on Anc*try.

[buttercup2009]

I thought it was a border crossing in 1949 Port of Trout River N Y calling himself John Harold and yes the name is Harry Jones in Coral Gables Florida from Pennsylvania - there may be a connection to Detroit which is where John Harold has said he was going to in 1920 but I see no evidence of him actually there - I think his wages might have been going there to the G.P.O. according to his army documents! Can\t think why?

…One clue is that on a border crossing he gives the name of Harry Jones and I wondered if there was a connection to Betsy but I can't see what it is as he's from Pennsylvania...

What is the date of the border crossing, please? I haven’t found it on Anc*try.

[Lisa in California]

Thank you.  I will have a look in a minute.

Have you seen his naturalization papers?  He stated his birthplace was Revelstoke, B.C., Canada. (But, born on March 4, 1898.)

Added: Declaration of Intent dob was 4 March 1899.

[Lisa in California]

Hmmm, I don’t see the document on Anc*try.

[buttercup2009]

Yes I have - his birthdate varies over the years he was very young when his mum died and it should be 1899 but the actual date and month is always the same. He was born in Herne Hill London and I also see that he says he is Irish! His brother Christopher was born in Revelstoke but he and his sisters immigrated with Mum in 1903. He and his sisters were on a ship in 1903 with Agnes their mother, she is my relative. She died of miscarriage in 1907 the same year two of her sisters were making their way out to Revelstoke - five sisters ended up out there.

Thank you.  I will have a look in a minute.

Have you seen his naturalization papers?  He stated his birthplace was Revelstoke, B.C., Canada. (But, born on March 4, 1898.)

Added: Declaration of Intent dob was 4 March 1899.

[buttercup2009]

I tried to put it on and it won't accept the file size, I'm not good at links

Hmmm, I don’t see the document on Anc*try.

[buttercup2009]

Just found this on Familysearch site;

Peter William Terry
Event Type   Death
Event Date   22 Jun 1976
Event Place   New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Sex   Male
Age   56
Marital Status   Married
Birth Date   14 May 1920
Birth Year (Estimated)   1920
Birthplace   Montreal, Quebec
Father's Name   John Terry
Mother's Name   Betsy Jones
Spouse's Name   Gladys Mary Morrish

So Peter must be George's brother, will follow this lead - thank you for your help 

[Lisa in California]

Poor Agnes, what a sad story.  . Thank you for the details, though.

If it hasn’t already been mentioned, John and Jack are interchangeable names.  How he ended up choosing John/Jack is a mystery but perhaps he stopped using Frederick to differentiate himself from his father?  Could he have had two middle names, one being John/Jack?

[Lisa in California]

Just found this on Familysearch site;

Peter William Terry
Event Type   Death
Event Date   22 Jun 1976
Event Place   New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Sex   Male
Age   56
Marital Status   Married
Birth Date   14 May 1920
Birth Year (Estimated)   1920
Birthplace   Montreal, Quebec
Father's Name   John Terry
Mother's Name   Betsy Jones
Spouse's Name   Gladys Mary Morrish

So Peter must be George's brother, will follow this lead - thank you for your help 

Excellent find!