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Re: Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 21 December 22 12:23 GMT (UK) »
It looks as if Sidney's only brother who survived to adulthood was also called Robert (Robert Dilley Green) and also married a lady with surname Green. It's looking more as if Sidney lived with Sarah Ellen and fathered James, but then left her to marry Elsie in 1935.
Still no sign of Sidney in 1921.

I think this seems very feasible. Sarah Ellen moves location within St Pancras/Islington after 1934. it may be coincidence that she moved just before Sid married another woman in 1935 but I think it's doubtful.
Sid then changes his name on the 1936 electoral register to WILLIAM Dilley. Elsie is with him. 1937 sees him reverting back to Sidney.
Sid's DOB is out by 11 years on his death certificate. Elsie obviously knew very little about him.
Davis - Berkshire & London
Sutcliffe - Yorkshire & London
Harrington - Ireland and London
Fuller - Cambridgeshire and Essex
Waldron/Waldren - Devon & London
Frisby and Lee - Leicestershire
Hollingsworth - Essex
Williams - Ireland? and London
Ellis, Reed & Temple - London
Lane - ?
Surplice/Surplus - Cambridgeshire
Elwood - Cambridgeshire

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Re: Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 21 December 22 12:25 GMT (UK) »
There is a newspaper snippet - January 1913 Islington Gazette

Sidney Dilley, 20 yrs charged with stealing from his employer.

This does not surprise me. Several members of the Dilley family had a criminal record.
I don't suppose the snippet gives Sid's address?
Davis - Berkshire & London
Sutcliffe - Yorkshire & London
Harrington - Ireland and London
Fuller - Cambridgeshire and Essex
Waldron/Waldren - Devon & London
Frisby and Lee - Leicestershire
Hollingsworth - Essex
Williams - Ireland? and London
Ellis, Reed & Temple - London
Lane - ?
Surplice/Surplus - Cambridgeshire
Elwood - Cambridgeshire

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Re: Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 21 December 22 12:28 GMT (UK) »
James Dilley b 13.4.1920 died Dec 1984 Bromley Kent so he retained the surname Dilley.  No probate entry found

I'm going to order a death certificate. I would like to know who registered his death. If he ever married it would be useful to know whose name was given as his father on the marriage certificate.

There is no birth registration for him that I can find so I assume he was registered under his mother's surname - whatever that it.
Davis - Berkshire & London
Sutcliffe - Yorkshire & London
Harrington - Ireland and London
Fuller - Cambridgeshire and Essex
Waldron/Waldren - Devon & London
Frisby and Lee - Leicestershire
Hollingsworth - Essex
Williams - Ireland? and London
Ellis, Reed & Temple - London
Lane - ?
Surplice/Surplus - Cambridgeshire
Elwood - Cambridgeshire

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Re: Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 21 December 22 12:54 GMT (UK) »
There is a newspaper snippet - January 1913 Islington Gazette

Sidney Dilley, 20 yrs charged with stealing from his employer.

This does not surprise me. Several members of the Dilley family had a criminal record.
I don't suppose the snippet gives Sid's address?

Sorry, I should have added ‘no fixed abode’ which I thought might fit with him living with relatives earlier.
There is another Sidney - Sidney Alfred born around the same time though as you will know - Alice’s son, referred to previously.
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Re: Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 21 December 22 14:00 GMT (UK) »
Sidney Arthur Dilley Died 17 Jul 1918. He was in The Royal Fusiliers.
WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
His mother's name is given as Alice Maud Dilley.

So that narrows the number of Sidney Dilley's living in Islington after WW1
Davis - Berkshire & London
Sutcliffe - Yorkshire & London
Harrington - Ireland and London
Fuller - Cambridgeshire and Essex
Waldron/Waldren - Devon & London
Frisby and Lee - Leicestershire
Hollingsworth - Essex
Williams - Ireland? and London
Ellis, Reed & Temple - London
Lane - ?
Surplice/Surplus - Cambridgeshire
Elwood - Cambridgeshire

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Re: Who was Sarah Ellen Dilley?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 21 December 22 15:04 GMT (UK) »
Re James Dilley 1920

Is it known if he ever married. A marriage in 1957 to a Pamela O (Olive) Budd. Same  year a Dilley/Budd daughter born. James & Pamela appear in 1957 electoral register but from that time onwards Pamela is always by herself on electoral registers with her Budd parents.
Pamela died 2017 West Sussex.

John