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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 03:30 GMT (UK) »


"His parents were Thadeus/Thomas/Timothy Fitzpatrick, a shoemaker, and Catherine Fitzpatrick (nee Hanifan)."

When and where did this couple marry?

In all the newspaper accounts of the death of this couple, 1867 -

What names do you see in the newspaper articles for the children?

What ages do you see in the newspaper articles for the children?

What do you see in the newspaper articles to indicate the number of children left as orphans at 1867?

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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 03:47 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for the heads up - I just found a notification of his probate in the newspapers (don't have the link on me, I'll post it in the morning) with a James O'Sullivan asking for creditors to come forward.

Unfortunately it didn't have any further details, so I'll either wait for a look up offer or save up to pay for a copy.

The news item I think you are mentioning here was for the death of a man in 1937 in Melbourne.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/11111832

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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 03:53 GMT (UK) »
Also meant to add that there is a probate packet for the Martin FITZPATRICK who died in 1940. Sometimes these contain useful information including wills.
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/permalink/f/1ebnd1l/ADLIB_RNSW112471865

Unfortunately RootsChatter Rosball who used to volunteer photographing these documents for other members has moved away and can no longer do so. You can purchase a copy, but they are quite pricey.

Find my past has a copy of the will he was living at Stanmore near Sydney,a retired Hospital Attendant devised whole of the estate to Neillie WALSH. Probate was granted to Thomas Joseph WALSH.

Does that help?
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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 05:54 GMT (UK) »
Further to Ambly's note on Johanna, this obituary states her husband John WALSH was a native of Limerick
 
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/105189709

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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 06:05 GMT (UK) »
A couple more snips for interest.
The Walsh family were at Bridge Road Glebe in 1902
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/111071708

Father James Joseph GARVEY was born in Limerick in 1840.  He came to Australia at the age of 23. Here is his 1885 obituary
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/170308506

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ADDING. Very likely his arrival

From Melbourne  then arriving NSW
Reverend Mr GARVEY
Port of Departure    Melbourne
Arrival   Sydney, New South Wales
Arrival Date    29 Feb 1864
Vessel  Wonga Wonga


News clip shipping passenger list.Vessel Wonga Wonga
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/60583215

He took his first posting at Tamworth

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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 08:56 GMT (UK) »

The news item I think you are mentioning here was for the death of a man in 1937 in Melbourne.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/11111832


The Martin FITZPATRICK who died in 1937 in Victoria, Camberwell East was 82. The index has his parents as Thomas and Mary, born Queens County.

His death notice, no family mentioned
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/244557376

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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 09:11 GMT (UK) »
Just to discount him further, trying to work out whether this Martin FITZPATRICK (who died 1937) lived alone: he lived at 37 Tribe St, South Melbourne (according to the probate advertisement). At the same address in 1940 a James FITZPATRICK died.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/204391169
No mention of a Martin (deceased) among the family mentioned in this death notice.

A coincidence of names, or are they family?

Modified to add:
This death notice for Catherine FITZPATRICK in 1934, of 37 Tribe St South Melbourne, doesn't have a mention of a Martin either.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/204811250

But it seems there were a family of FITZPATRICKs at the address, so I think you can assume the Martin who died there in 1937 was probably not yours.  :-\

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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 09:25 GMT (UK) »
so the will extract I posted is not your guy?
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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 20 December 22 09:33 GMT (UK) »
It quite possibly is. Unfortunately redmeagher doesn't know exactly when his Martin FITZPATRICK died, or where he was living, only that he was unmarried and "boarding" with a woman who sent a watch back to Ireland. Whilst the one with the will you found does sound very possible, it is quite a common name, so good to try to eliminate others.  :)