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Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« on: Sunday 18 December 22 15:03 GMT (UK) »
I'm looking for the death records, but honestly I'd be glad for any life records, relating to Martin Fitzpatrick.

The only information I have comes from my grandma (he's her great-uncle), which is that he emigrated to Australia before her mum was born in 1897, that he lived in a boarding house with a woman until his death, and that he died unmarried and without children. The woman he lived with sent his watch back home after his death, so presumably she was able to register his death with some of the relevant family information.

He also visited Ireland around 1902 when my great-grandma was five years old, as he was her godfather.

From my own research - he was likely born between 1855 and 1867 in County Limerick, Ireland. He's referenced in his parents' obituary (they died in an accident) as they left behind three children, and I've found birth records for their other two children. His parents were Thadeus/Thomas/Timothy Fitzpatrick, a shoemaker, and Catherine Fitzpatrick (nee Hanifan). His siblings were John (b. 1857) and Mary (b. 1863).

I think he either immigrated in 1876 on the Lochlee to Queensland, or in 1884 on the Warwick to Sydney. He may have died in 1940, as I found a record of a Martin Fitzpatrick buried in Rookwood Catholic Cemetery, Sydney, who was about 81 years old (b. c. 1859), but there's no headstone so I'm not entirely certain.

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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #1 on: Monday 19 December 22 00:49 GMT (UK) »
Doesn't help with determining whether he is your Martin, however there is this obituary for the one who died in 1940
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/106423091

and a death notice, someone must have placed the notice.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17701224

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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #2 on: Monday 19 December 22 01:45 GMT (UK) »


When did the parents die......date of the obituary?

Did sister Mary marry, and what married name. There might be an enquiry in a newspaper after Martin...ie...."sister Mary **** anxious to hear from you"

What town in Limerick did they live in?

Did older brother John become a shoemaker?........and might be the trade of Martin?

It sounds as though the story has been much handled over the years. It might be worth considering that he emigrated to/ended up in New Zealand.

For stories of family going out to the colonies, and not much contact after, NZ and Australia are often mixed up in the repeating of the story.

Can you give all the wording in the obituary.

Below...do you mean that you have Martin's name in a baptism record....when and where?

"He also visited Ireland around 1902 when my great-grandma was five years old, as he was her godfather."




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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 December 22 02:08 GMT (UK) »
Also found a reference of the Martin Fitzpatrick  who died 16 Nov 1940,  Deceased Estate Index
https://mhnsw.au/indexes/deceased-estates/deceased-estates-index/

Retired Hospital Attendant
Date of Grant 13 Dec 1940
Value $375

( He's indexed as Mertin, not Martin)

Noting, that the NSW BMD Indexes for this man's death doesn't have a name of either parent


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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 December 22 02:17 GMT (UK) »
As he was a hospital attendant, this is probably the Martin FITZPATRICK who died in 1940 - on the 1913 electoral roll at 142 Weston Road, Rozelle (attendant). He appears to be living there alone - I have checked the 1913 roll for that address - so not in a boarding house at this time. Though the obituary does he moved to Stanmore 15 years previous.

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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 December 22 02:28 GMT (UK) »
Martin FITZPATRICK at 16 Percival Rd, Annandale (actually this is closer to Stanmore) on the 1934 electoral roll, hospital attendant. This is the same address on his death notice. However, again, I can't see anyone else at this address?

Modified to add:
Actually there is a Thomas Joseph WALSH and Nellie WALSH at this address in 1933, 1935, 1937 and 1943.

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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 December 22 03:53 GMT (UK) »
That's great Maddys52  ;D  You found him ( the 1940 man)!

I'd say he was more likely boarding AT the the 16 Percival address, which is not necessarily saying the address is a Boarding House per se.  Sounds like he was very much involved with the Church, so it could have been an address associated with the Rozelle Church or a member of the Rozelle congregation.

Hi Landlady, man, may have found amongst his belongings, his family address in Ireland to send watch to but had not known or found his parents names for the death  cert?

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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #7 on: Monday 19 December 22 04:20 GMT (UK) »
For a bit of rounding off ( and wondering if any family connection)

Thomas and Nellie Walsh were siblings who died within 2 days of each other in 1952:

Thomas Walsh, d 27 Jan 1952  at 16 Percival Road, Stanmore, beloved brother of Mary, Helena, Annie and Agnes, aged 81

Helena Walsh, d 29 Jan 1952 at 16 Percival Road, Stanmore, beloved sister of Thomas (deceased), Mary, Annie and Agnes.

The NSW BMD gives  their parents as John & Johanna

It seems the 16 Percival address had long been the family residence:

In 1909, on 2 Aug died Mrs  Johanna WALSH of 16 Percival Road. She was the sister of of the late Rev. J. J Garvey

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Re: Martin FITZPATRICK - emigration and death
« Reply #8 on: Monday 19 December 22 04:57 GMT (UK) »
No mention of where he was in Ireland. Lots of Fitzpatricks in Co Donegal.
The Irish end may ahve some clues.

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