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Help finding a birth certificate for my 2 x great grandmother
« on: Saturday 17 December 22 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone,

I'm looking for some help with researching my 2 x great grandmother (again) with some slightly updated info.

I've been stuck on this one for months and still no breakthrough. Here's what I have

Name is Bessie Jenkins née Dowling, birth year is estimated to be 1878. She married Albert Edward Jenkins in 1899 and her marriage certificate states her father was Thomas Dowling.

I have found her on the 1891,1901 and 1911 census records. All state she was born in Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales.

The 1891 census states she's living as a borderer at age 13. The following census' are her living with my 2 x great grandfather (Albert) and their family.

She died on 11 January 1918 Aged 39.

Despite all the information I do have I can't find any hint of a birth certificate anywhere, I have no idea why. There is also no trace of her being on an 1881 census from what I can see either. I'm at a loss as to why there are missing records I can't find. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

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Re: Help finding a birth certificate for my 2 x great grandmother
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 December 22 23:05 GMT (UK) »
Do you think this may be her
Mar 1876
DOWLING    Elizabeth Catherine        Newport, M.    11a   222

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Re: Help finding a birth certificate for my 2 x great grandmother
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 December 22 23:17 GMT (UK) »
Do you think this may be her
Mar 1876
DOWLING    Elizabeth Catherine        Newport, M.    11a   222

I'll look into this one, the year would be out slightly but I guess that's a possibility given how unreliable some info given back then could be. Thank you

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Re: Help finding a birth certificate for my 2 x great grandmother
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 December 22 23:20 GMT (UK) »
Wrong birth - mmn was Sullivan & links to a marriage between John Dowling & Catherine Sullivan
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Re: Help finding a birth certificate for my 2 x great grandmother
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 December 22 23:22 GMT (UK) »
Wrong birth - mmn was Sullivan & links to a marriage between John Dowling & Catherine Sullivan

Thank you for the help Carole, much appreciated.

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Re: Help finding a birth certificate for my 2 x great grandmother
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 December 22 23:36 GMT (UK) »
Try this one

1881 census - all surname Williams

Thomas 52 b Trostrey  agric labourer
Margaret 27 b Monmouth
Mary A 7 b Monmouth
Bessy 1 b Raglan

Birth Dec qtr 1879
Bessie Williams mmn Dowlin (as per GRO online) Monmouth 11a 39
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Re: Help finding a birth certificate for my 2 x great grandmother
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 December 22 23:40 GMT (UK) »
Can't find a Williams/Dowling marriage
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Re: Help finding a birth certificate for my 2 x great grandmother
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 December 22 23:50 GMT (UK) »
Death of Margaret Dowling aged 33 March qtr 1886 Monmouth.  Buried 13.2.1886 St Mary's Monmouth

Birth of Mary Ann Dowling Dec qtr 1873 Monmouth - no mmn - illegitimate
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Re: Help finding a birth certificate for my 2 x great grandmother
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 December 22 03:30 GMT (UK) »
Bapts;
Workhouse, Monmouth, Monmouthshire
MARY Dowling 12 Nov 1873, birth 03 Oct 1873
JAMES Dowling 12 Jul 1883
Mother MARGARET Dowling
(FreeREG)

Possible for James in 1891
John George 30   Head
Kate George 26   Wife
Florence George 4   Daughter
George Higgins 11   Boarder
James Dowling   7   Boarder born Monmouthshire

GRO;
GEORGE, FLORENCE  MARY mmn   WILLIAMS 
GRO Reference: 1886  D Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 11A  Page 28
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